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    Many years ago when I had a learners permit and was driving the car of a friend of the family that was black and another kid that was white. The stop was certainly because of Mr. Adams' race in the car. LEOs excuse was I made a bad left turn on what was an empty highway. The other two were carefully critiquing my driving. The turn was proper.
    This was also stupid and was going totally on racial appearance. We were in an old woody jeep that was used for hunting and fishing by the owner and we were dressed roughly with Mr Adams in the middle that was the reason for the stop. When I presented my drivers permit and then Mr. Adams presented his drivers license that also had his pistol permits visible, the reason came out.
    Cop blurts out where did you pick him up and shouted at Mr. Adams I do not want see you pistol permits, but your drivers license. (Cop still had not caught on)
    Mr. Adams said my driver license is there also and I stated it was his car. After a little bit more time, ding ding that cop finally understood. Here was a black man with two pistol permits in Indiana signed by his sheriff in about 1960. He became politer and sent us on our way. He mumbled something about wanting check the serial numbers of the .22 target pistols in the back and then went on his way.
    Mr. Adams was not upset and joking. Saying that as the cop went away he was likely exclaiming two white boys and a nig___ and a car load of guns.

    Times in someways were different them
    Mr adams when he was 13, his father gave him a .32 and a .38 and gave him lecture about keeping them out sight and not acting stupid with them. At 13 in a christian family your were a man.
    When I got a P17 Enfield for christmas he opened a box in his woody jeep and detached about hundred rounds of linked 30-06 from the rest of the belt. He also knew the game warden land one day we stopped by his house and Mr Adams gave him some boxes of M1 carbine ammo.
    He had a fine collection of revolvers and did a lot of reloading. The culture of Indiana in those days was not so different from Kentucky and southern Illinois in those days.

    And that’s what ...I wish ppl would just see, understand and accept that.. that shit really does happen all the time and I have been a victim of it many time ...don’t get me wrong I can understand why I may be singled out ..that’s why I say we as ppl need to start changing the narrative!!


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    bholden

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    I was speaking of a more personal experience, like those you work or interact with.. yes, a casual passerby may make judgements based just on color, but those are not of a discerning nature...


    we all make judgements on others, many of them a day, it is up to the individual as to how it effects you, or others

    I can totally understand that’s part of it


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    Remember though . . . White people are the subject of MASS discrimination also. Recistism is racialism. . . works both ways. Have not white people been specifically targeted simply for the color of their skin ??
    As long as we all are truthful about what has happened throughout history,and what is happening now,and we all try to respect each other,our beliefs,customs,and heritage,we will come out of this.
    But "this" is my space. I will defend it against ALL colors,races,creeds,and religions. PERIOD !!!! --- SAWMAN
     

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    Some of the worst cases are due to fear on the part of the LEO and can have white victims.

    The Dauphin County district attorney’s office has released footage of a police officer fatally shooting an unarmed motorist in the back in February as he lay face-down on the ground. Subscribe to Guardian Wires ► http://bit.ly/guardianwiressub Lisa Mearkle, 37, of Hummelstown police, is seen shocking 59-year-old David Kassick with a Taser, before shooting him in the back. Mearkle, who was cleared of murder charges on Thursday, says she feared for her safety.

     

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    Remember though . . . White people are the subject of MASS discrimination also. Recistism is racialism. . . works both ways. Have not white people been specifically targeted simply for the color of their skin ??
    As long as we all are truthful about what has happened throughout history,and what is happening now,and we all try to respect each other,our beliefs,customs,and heritage,we will come out of this.
    But "this" is my space. I will defend it against ALL colors,races,creeds,and religions. PERIOD !!!! --- SAWMAN

    That’s is a true statement!!


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    The point I am trying to make is anybody regardless of race can be hurt by improper actions.
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    As for the "BLM movement", my perspective is that the message is lost in the delivery. Any legitimacy of their cause is overshadowed and erased by the criminal actions they generate and endorse. They would have more widespread support if they didn't act like thugs breaking stuff, and if their message wasn't only about one skintone.
    And their message isn't only about skintone.
    "BLM was started by three black women, but their stated goal—to achieve equality for blacks—masks a different agenda. In the “What We Believe” section of the BLM site, they highlight the work they do to “dismantle cisgender privilege” and their desire to “disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure”—a structure that many, including myself and Kanye West, believe is key to rebuilding black communities. The mission statement mires a message that should be about black lives in a slew of buzzwords and Marxist psychobabble. Not all the sentiments are bad, but none will create positive change in the black community."

     

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    A couple years ago,who was that marching down the middle of the street,chanting . . . "Pigs in a blanket,fry 'em like bacon" ?? --- SAWMAN
     

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    And their message isn't only about skintone.



    Yes two of the three founders are radical lesbians who hate cisgenders as well as whites.

    Then again when was the last time you saw an organization of nonwhites intent on helpng anyone other than nonwhites?
     

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    Unfortunately, on a grand global scale, slavery has never been stronger, and America is still in its infancy, and the Civil War was like yesterday. American supremacy is only because we won back to back World Wars with modern machinery during an Industrial Revolution. Russia, China, Turkey, India, Pakistan, Persia (Iran), Germany, Spain, the British Isles, Japan.... all been around for thousands of years longer than America. The inequalities didnt all get started in one, two or ten generations and the inequalities are not going to end in one or two generations either
     

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    what the hell is cisgender?
    Cis and Trans are used in chemical depictions of isomeric chemical structures.

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    Below for perverts.
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    For weirdos this is what it means: denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex.
     

    TK5o

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    Cis and Trans are used in chemical depictions of isomeric chemical structures.

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    For weirdos this is what it means: denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex.
    This is more confusing than just giving us a definition
     

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    Well fella I have just come to the realization that I can speak with everyone til I am blue in the face ...but at the end of the day I’m not going to change anyones mind about this whole racism, hate, and everything in between that’s Plagues this country for years and most likely will continue to plague this country...I feel the way I feel and everyone feels the way they feel ..and that’s ok ...but hey something we can all agree on ...GuNs ...and I just finished this beauty
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    Well fella I have just come to the realization that I can speak with everyone til I am blue in the face ...but at the end of the day I’m not going to change anyones mind about this whole racism, hate, and everything in between that’s Plagues this country for years and most likely will continue to plague this country...I feel the way I feel and everyone feels the way they feel ..and that’s ok ...but hey something we can all agree on ...GuNs ...and I just finished this beauty
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    That’s a good looking gun.


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    Well fella I have just come to the realization that I can speak with everyone til I am blue in the face ...but at the end of the day I’m not going to change anyones mind about this whole racism, hate, and everything in between that’s Plagues this country for years and most likely will continue to plague this country...I feel the way I feel and everyone feels the way they feel ..and that’s ok ...but hey something we can all agree on ...GuNs ...and I just finished this beauty
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    That’s a good looking gun.


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    Looks good
    Whats the details on the build? What scope is that
     

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    Well fella I have just come to the realization that I can speak with everyone til I am blue in the face ...but at the end of the day I’m not going to change anyones mind about this whole racism, hate, and everything in between that’s Plagues this country for years and most likely will continue to plague this country...I feel the way I feel and everyone feels the way they feel ..and that’s ok ...but hey something we can all agree on ...GuNs ...and I just finished this beauty
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    The bottom line is that once a person knows their skintone doesn't define who they are, that person is free to pursue their goals.

    This great Nation is overflowing with opportunities.

    Every person has obstacles to overcome.

    I'd wager that for any given society "problem" (poverty, housing, education, etc), if you crossed "racism" off the list as a Cause, you would find a more culpable reason for that problem, and you'd be soooo much closer to a solution.

    Traditional family units and values is a good start. Reducing the amount of broken homes.
    Caring fathers and mothers raising the kids.
    Respect for others taught at home.
    Respect for teachers, law enforcement, the elderly, neighbors, etc.
    Emphasis on the importance of a good education and a good work ethic.
    Humility and gratitude for the opportunities available in this Country versus the challenges around the world.

    If people would stop blaming others for perceived disadvantages... if people would nip racist comments and actions in the bud... if people would stop acting like inconsiderate and disrespectful fools... the self-replicating loop of misperceptions would break.

    So, since it takes both sides to wipe this crap out, you can only control you. However, there are more good folks than bad ones, so one day, this, too, shall pass.

    The real challenge is preventing the mob-crazy libtards from throwing the Constitution "baby" out with the "bath water" in the meantime.
     

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