Where the Gun Issue is Going

[oldefoxx]

The Democrats in Congress have made it their fight to try and get rid of personal guns. You wonder why? Then know this as well.

The Department of Homeland Security has ordered up 1.6 billion in hollow point ammo and tanks. What is it that they know that we don't?
Now the Department of Homeland Security has first refused to tell members of Congress why, then they switched to the tactic of deny it is even happening. What's going on there?

Also know that Obama most respects Abraham Lincoln as his role model, and that Lincoln was the first and only president to declare martial law in his fight to pull the Union back together.

Now an FBI Profiler has come forward to say that it is his opinion that Obama is preparing to declare Martial Law and take control of the government by that means.

The fact that I am posting this should give you some idea of what I think. But what do you think? You see why it is important to the Democrats (who are lead by liberals, leftists, and socialists) want to make it a crime to have guns or limit you to just seven or ten rounds?

 

[outside9]

No way! The sky is not falling and no one is going to come get your guns.

 

[CCHGN]

OK, so if all that is true, then we here can't do anything, it's up to our elected officials and our military. If none of it is true, then ........


Do over half the world want to come here an kick our ass? Yes.....are armed thugs entering our Country as we speak? Yes. Would China like to own the USA? yes. Do they have us outnumbered 10 to 1? Yes.

Is it possible that DHS is readying for outside enemies? Absolutely.


Has anyone read Sun Tzu or studied any great battles? The tactic of drawing out the troops to another land and then hit the homeland is not new.

 

[bronxbomber252]

CCHGN has some great points, our LE agencies are actually a vital component of our defense strategy, arming them up gives a great defensive force that is never sent overseas. SO is there cause to worry, maybe... but I don't think paranoia is necessarily warranted.

 

[gunnerxxx]

At least if its foreign enemies Ill know who to take out, if its domestic well.....

 

[oldefoxx]

Yes, there is a way. Create a situation where there is great unrest in the country, then impose martial law. It's been done elsewhere, such as Russia, Germany, Italy, Spain, to mention a few. It takes no act on the part of Congress for Martial Law to be imposed. What would be a suitable situation? How about food shortages, a bankrupt government, or creating a racial/alien tension that goes too far.

Ever hear of the night of the long knives? I bet nobody that voted for or against Hitler thought it would come to that. When it is after that fact, you kick yourself for not seeing it coming. When it is before the fact, you don't want to think it can happen here. The military is already under the dominance of the Presidency, and so is DHS and all the agencies of the government. Only Congress and the Court System stand apart. Find out how Saddam Hussein rose from Chief of Security to being a Dictatorship in one fell swoop. All it takes is position, planniing and preparation.

 

[wildrider666]

With all the speculation of the enemy within and the enemy wanting in, there is but one answer. It is not just for "T" Shirts any more: Kill Them All, Let God Sort Them Out.

 

[DaBreeze]

If the threat is foreign then why limit Americans ability to buy ammo guns and limit magazine capacity ?

 

[Hunkyfish]

& why are our local LEO's being shorted on ammo while the Feds stockpile it ?

 

[2ndAmendmentShooting]

given the current administrations track record, I dont trust any of them. I dont tust 99.99% of the .gov out there. Everyone has good points, but in conclusion, why would the .gov want to take away/limit the citizen's weapons if Japan itself said they wouldnt invade the USA because of all the private gun ownership. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but starting back with Bush 1, the one world government and new world order seem to be arranging themselves nicely.

 

[2ndAmendmentShooting]

remember also, in China....when they had gun control back in the 40's...it took them 10 years to start killing 20 million citizens. Also Hitler Germany, it took 6 years after gun control to start killing the "unpure". I don't think the .gov would kill any US citizens immediately, but given a couple years of gun control....you never know...

 

[gunforumfan]

Thank you for bringing this up OLDEFOXX. It seems even in a forum like this people are quick to declare you are jumping to conclusions when evidence is mounting. People better start talking and preparing.
‘We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve gotta (sic) have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded [as the United States military]‘–Candidate Barack Obama, 2008.”
If you value freedom you must regard those in power with distrust. Do not sit idle. Talk to those around you about these issues now no matter how crazy it appears. All it takes for evil men to prevail is for good men to sit idle.

 

[doc92]

& why are our local LEO's being shorted on ammo while the Feds stockpile it ?

This one is actually 100% true and quite disturbing.

 

[jakec]

given the current administrations track record, I dont trust any of them. I dont tust 99.99% of the .gov out there. Everyone has good points, but in conclusion, why would the .gov want to take away/limit the citizen's weapons if Japan itself said they wouldnt invade the USA because of all the private gun ownership. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but starting back with Bush 1, the one world government and new world order seem to be arranging themselves nicely.

call me a conspiracy theorist also. agree 100%

 

[CCHGN]

. People better start talking and preparing..

Talking about what? Preparing for what? If this is true, that the Govt is hell bent on declaring martial law (and then what?), what would talking do but make you the first target? Tell me how you'll plan against artillery, trained soldiers, tanks and air craft?

 

[CCHGN]

Yes, there is a way. Create a situation where there is great unrest in the country, then impose martial law. It's been done elsewhere, such as Russia, Germany, Italy, Spain, to mention a few.......

Well, the thing that is, we have two things that NONE other country in history ever had: The Constitution and the American spirit. You mention those other Countries, the people wanted that change. Germany- was in a deep depression, they wanted someone to blame, along came Hilter, who blamed the Jews and persuaded the masses to go along with him.

That won't happen here. Americans understand our history and our Constitution spells out what is right and what is wrong. IF a President dare attempts to declare martial law, a HUGE portion of Americans will be against it and fight it. If they dared to take it by force, we would have to rely on our own military/LE/citizens to fight it.

 

[FrankT]

Sooner or later our Country will lose its rights, be stuck with minimal arms if any, I will be dead and long gone. The Liberals of today are domestic terrorists along w the current POTUS. Unless they are defeated at the polls or in battle the US will cease to exist as we know it...Will the Patriots stand or fall, the politicians will not protect you.

 

[Snow Bird]

Would the supreme court have any way to overturn a marshall law order? IF they decided to?

 

[FrankT]

Sure they might after 6 mos of arguing and deciding after all the guns were collected.

 

[mike6043]

Sooner or later our Country will lose its rights, be stuck with minimal arms if any, I will be dead and long gone. The Liberals of today are domestic terrorists along w the current POTUS. Unless they are defeated at the polls or in battle the US will cease to exist as we know it...Will the Patriots stand or fall, the politicians will not protect you.

agreed