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The OP is . . . how should I say this . . . ummmmmm . . . BULLSHIT.
I say to them low life chicken shit pieces of shit - -> why the eff don't you start with the TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER. See how far you get with that. And how about the flags and statues of any (pick one) Marine Corps Base main gate. Marine's with guns and a bad attitude will come swarming out of that base like a nest of pissed off hornets,and chase your white,black,and other,ass all the way across the country if needbe. ---- SAWMAN
I have figured out SAWMAN is the quiet, spiritual, touchy feely, hugs before hurts, yogi of the forum.
 

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The first sentence of the excerpted quote above directly contradicts the following sentence.

Add the fact that they are lawyers living in a gated community, yet they support democrats and domestic terrorists.

As far as I'm concerned, everyone involved in that story could get struck by lightning and I couldn't care less.
the wife looked like she was about to pop a cap off....would not have blamed her.
 
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the wife looked like she was about to pop a cap off....would not have blamed her. her last husband was killed in the front yard in an attempted hijacking I heard somewhere.
If so, and she still supports the Democrats (who want the destruction of the Constitution) and the blm (who want the destruction of the society), well then, she didn't learn a thing.
 

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The first sentence of the excerpted quote above directly contradicts the following sentence.

Add the fact that they are lawyers living in a gated community, yet they support democrats and domestic terrorists.

As far as I'm concerned, everyone involved in that story could get struck by lightning and I couldn't care less.
Idiots!
Well they live in mansion and purchased guns to defend it. Likely they are unethical and working with immoral people. But their life at least from a material fashion seems not idiotic at all. There seems to be little divine retribution during our mortal lives so how would you point out to them the error of their ways. If they believe in an after life they likely think they can buy their way in.
 

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If so, and she still supports the Democrats (who want the destruction of the Constitution) and the blm (who want the destruction of the society), well then, she didn't learn a thing.

just found out her ex was not killed in attempted carjacking...media wrapped that fact in a story about this, but it was the st louis alderwoman's husband....who was opposing the mayor's doxing of facebook members
 

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Anytime you read "a mostly peaceful protest" you damn well know it ddflection and spin to detract from the crime, violence and mob action that took place. They tear down a "Security Gate" ad pass by no trespass residence only. Then the mob enters and commits trespass and armed trespass and the Mob by shere numbers of persons reinforced by persons with weapons encroach further toward an occupied dwelling while threatening all life within. There's no peaceful protest or lawful conduct for any person that entered via that Posted and torn down Security Gate!

It appears they didnt follow bidens double barrel shotgun advice! Maybe pop off two rounds from the porch to scare them off! I REALLY WANT TO KNOW how long ago he bought the AR? they might not have had the dainy pistol either. More free pro gun, buy a gun advertisement.
 

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Then the mob enters and commits trespass and armed trespass and the Mob by shere numbers of persons reinforced by persons with weapons encroach further toward an occupied dwelling while threatening all life within.

Relevant Florida Statutes

776.012 Use or threatened use of force in defense of person.—
(1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force.
(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.

776.08 Forcible felony.—“Forcible felony” means treason; murder; manslaughter; sexual battery; carjacking; home-invasion robbery; robbery; burglary; arson; kidnapping; aggravated assault; aggravated battery; aggravated stalking; aircraft piracy; unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb; and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual.
 

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Disparity of force in self defense <----> read up on this. Does this not come into play in this situation ??
I really does not have to be one on one only.
If I am armed,I warn as such, the mob has already displayed act's of violence and/or destruction,I am in fear of my life, can I not shoot ?? How many ?? Which ones ??
I understand that if the mob/looters/arsonist's are no longer a threat,as in running off,I immediately am not in danger any more so I must stop firing.
Remember,as in this case of the home owner . . . these mobs have clearly,time and time again,on camera,looted,robbed,home invaded,assaulted,tresspassed,murdered police,other civilians . . . why in the eff would I be so dumb as to think that they are not going to do the same to me ???
WHAT . . WAIT . . GIVE THEM THE CHANCE ??? If they have forceably broken down an otherwise secured iron gate,and come past a no trespassing sign,with their prior history . . . is this not disparity of force ?? --- SAWMAN
 

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In the above case,the mob was lucky that the homeowner did not dump the entire mag on them.
IT WILL HAPPEN !! These little boys and girls do not understand what is coming their way. Just a matter of time. --- SAWMAN
 

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In the above case,the mob was lucky that the homeowner did not dump the entire mag on them.
IT WILL HAPPEN !! These little boys and girls do not understand what is coming their way. Just a matter of time. --- SAWMAN


yep, these tech savvy young socialist/Marxist/blm/Antifa punks that think they have enough guns to push people around better think again....
they may have guns, but our side has like 8 trillion bullets....




I have thought about the big cities, where they like to control and block traffic in a major street, so they can smash shops , burn & loot....

they had pallets of bricks stashed to use.. maybe there should be a few containers of tannerite strategically placed in one of those streets for just such an occasion, painted like a street fixture or water valve or fireplug....


sharpshooter on a roof....and let the squealing commence.
 

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Basically sounds like you want to use tannerite as a homemade claymore. I believe it is a binary explosive that needs to be mixed to become an explosive. Just how stable is it after it is mixed?
yep, these tech savvy young socialist/Marxist/blm/Antifa punks that think they have enough guns to push people around better think again....
they may have guns, but our side has like 8 trillion bullets....




I have thought about the big cities, where they like to control and block traffic in a major street, so they can smash shops , burn & loot....

they had pallets of bricks stashed to use.. maybe there should be a few containers of tannerite strategically placed in one of those streets for just such an occasion, painted like a street fixture or water valve or fireplug....


sharpshooter on a roof....and let the squealing commence.
 

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Would a 100 pound propane cylinder accomplish the same thing?
Trickier. You are trying to make an air-fuel bomb. The correct combustion mixture is key to getting good results. Think of a car carburetor, too rich or too lean and the engine stops. You need to be within the UEL and LEL relative to fuel air mixture if you want it to go boom and not just burn.
 

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Trickier. You are trying to make an air-fuel bomb. The correct combustion mixture is key to getting good results. Think of a car carburetor, too rich or too lean and the engine stops. You need to be within the UEL and LEL relative to fuel air mixture if you want it to go boom and not just burn.
I.e. no, it does not work.
 

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Basically sounds like you want to use tannerite as a homemade claymore. I believe it is a binary explosive that needs to be mixed to become an explosive. Just how stable is it after it is mixed?

don't have a clue, never bought any, or used any...nor would I, but it is a thought to ponder if things get real dicey

it is very effective on closely grouped hogs....
 

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Saw this last PM on both Tucker Carlson AND Hannity. Very interesting.
I am sure that this has happened in the past several months . . BUT . . it has not been reported,so visable,or "in your face".
Like that Clint Eastwood picture that someone posted recently, they probably just wanted to be left alone . . BUT . . were ready in case something like this happened.
Then . . . there are you guys here. You state,your opinion is,"i'm glad no one got hurt". Well . . I really can't say that I agree with you.
I am happy that the homeowners did not get hurt. However some of their property got damaged (HOA property). If these thugs,looters,mobs, continue, SHIT evenyually WILL hit the fan. People will get hurt and I predict, die. Given the choices of the armed citizen trying to protect themselves,their family,and their property,the police,and the mob,looters,arsonists,mobs . . .WELL - -> pick who dies. My vote,as always,will be the bad guys over the good guys.
Forum members,we each have our opinions about this stuff that is happening. But put yourself in the place of the homeowners. Who do you want to die.
99.999% of the people here have never been subjected to the real world "kill (with impunity) or be killed" thing. Them or me. Just take what you can carry then tell the mob,"the rest is yours". Is that your plan ??
Not mine. Me and my wife will be armed with AR's. Both of us will have a mag carrier with 6X30rd mags in it around our necks. This plus a mag inserted,rd chambered,weapon on safe. We will,at least initially step out into the open so that the mob,looters,arsonists, can see that we mean buisness,and that we have the necessary resolve to protect what we have worked for.
If they feel that we are like the other property owners that we have witnessed simply turning their businesses over to them to be looted,burned,defaced . . . they would be wrong. The "war" starts right here and now.
I do not want this to happen. I do not want to hurt anybody. But remember . . . the homeowners above called the cops,and the HOA security people. Nobody could bother to show up to help them. Sooooooo . . . . ??? --- SAWMAN
I agree. Most news stories are denigrating the actions of 2nd AMMENDMENT behavior while insisting that rioting and looting is part of the 1st AMMENDMENT. Personally I don't take issue with lawful protesters anymore than I take issue with lawful gun carriers. However recent events lead me to believe that peace is not the goal of a majority of "protesters." As for me and mine we will defend both our liberty and our property. If someone devalues their life enough to decide destroying or taking my property is worth more than their life that is on them.
 
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