So confused...

[iwannagofish]

Hey Doc, didn't mean to send your thread off on a tangent.



I agree with Snowbird, take it, you deserve it bro! Mil personnel offer themselves totally for little in return.

 

[Droshki]

Oh that's right, I was suffering a case of HUA when I initially read the post. I remember now...Thanks FrankT!

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Looks like your effort was purposeful to me. Regrettable perhaps. But purposeful.

 

[Snow Bird]

Anyone can blame who ever they want and I know who most Rep blame but the truth is that program is like ever other program ment to help anyone has been abused just like ever other one. Blacks,whites and any other color you want to name. Just depends where you live,up north it's whites,down here it is blacks and out west it's people from another country. Pick any race or party and just sleep better because you think you are right.

Hell during the Great Depression some people got two bowles of soup.

 

[Droshki]

Anyone can blame who ever they want and I know who most Rep blame but the truth is that program is like ever other program ment to help anyone has been abused just like ever other one. Blacks,whites and any other color you want to name. Just depends where you live,up north it's whites,down here it is blacks and out west it's people from another country. Pick any race or party and just sleep better because you think you are right.

Hell during the Great Depression some people got two bowles of soup.

Smartest thing I've seen said around here in a long time.

 

[iwannagofish]

Looks like your effort was purposeful to me. Regrettable perhaps. But purposeful.

Looks can be deceiving. Regrettable, Yes...Purposeful, No. I honestly did not know about free phones and was curious. I remembered the picture after the fact.

 

[Droshki]

You posted a photo of President Obama's wife serving food in a cafeteria, after I posted the link showing the history of the program back to 1985, and that the expansion to cell phones began in 2005, when GWB was president.

That was inflammatory and added nothing factual to the conversation.

I don't wish to argue it with you further.

 

[Crazydoc68]

Hey Doc, didn't mean to send your thread off on a tangent.

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I agree with Snowbird, take it, you deserve it bro! Mil personnel offer themselves totally for little in return.

It's all good. I actually have decided NOT to take it. I have a lot in life as it is. I have a beautiful wife and 3 awesome kids. I honestly can't bring myself to take these benefits. I already feel like a slave most days working for the federal government. I don't NEED the money. Would it be nice, yes, but I don't think I could look myself in the mirror.

I'm better than that. Everything I have I have earned and paid for by myself.

Doc

 

[iwannagofish]

Doc, I salute you sir!


Droshki...I was never arguing to begin with.

 

[bigbulls]

It's all good. I actually have decided NOT to take it. I have a lot in life as it is. I have a beautiful wife and 3 awesome kids. I honestly can't bring myself to take these benefits. I already feel like a slave most days working for the federal government. I don't NEED the money. Would it be nice, yes, but I don't think I could look myself in the mirror.

I'm better than that. Everything I have I have earned and paid for by myself.

Doc

If someone came in your house and took a few of your guns each year would you want them back?
If someone came into your house and took a $100 bill every month would you want them back?

The govt. steals gobs of money from all of us and blows it on complete shit. I'd want as much of it back as I could get.

 

[FrankT]

You posted a photo of President Obama's wife serving food in a cafeteria, after I posted the link showing the history of the program back to 1985, and that the expansion to cell phones began in 2005, when GWB was president.

That was inflammatory and added nothing factual to the conversation.

I don't wish to argue it with you further.

Phone Company ‘Outraged’ By Fraud, Abuse In ‘Obamaphone’ Program

DENVER (CBS4) – A nationwide cellphone company distributing phones and cellphone plans in Denver as part of a massive government program says it is “outraged by the unacceptable actions” uncovered by a CBS4 undercover investigation.

The response from Total Call Mobile comes nearly three months after an undercover CBS4 investigation revealed multiple examples of fraud and cheating in the phone distribution program.

The Lifeline program is aimed at providing free cellphone service to the poor and needy. It handed out more than 13 million free cellphone plans in the first six months of 2014. In Colorado, the program handed out more than 117,000 free cellphone plans in the first half of 2014 or about 20,000 cellphones every month.

If you own a cellphone, you pay for the free phones and their wireless plans via a monthly tax on your cellphone called the Universal Service Tax. Although the Lifeline wireless program has been around since 2005 and started under President George W. Bush, it ballooned under President Obama and the phones are often referred to as Obamaphones.

To qualify for one of the cellphone plans, you have to be low income — on food stamps, Medicaid, housing assistance or some other government program.

But multiple times a CBS4 producer and reporter found phone agents in Denver circumventing strict government rules to ensure that only the truly needy get the free phones. Vendors, like Total Call, receive massive government subsidies to hand out the phones and the accompanying monthly plans.

RELATED: Government’s Free Phone Program Riddled With Abuse, Fraud

In one case a Total Call agent used someone else’s food stamp card to provide eligibility for a CBS4 producer. On another occasion another Total Call agent said it would be perfectly fine to use a friend’s food stamp card to establish eligibility and obtain a free phone.

In a letter to CBS4, Total Call has now responded saying, “Total Call Mobile is outraged by the unacceptable actions shown in the broadcast. The broadcast depicted both agents and applicants seeking to improperly participate in the Lifeline program. They were both engaged in fraudulent activity … to enroll in the Lifeline program among other improper actions.”
Phone company representatives talk to people seeking phones under the Lifeline program. (credit: CBS)

Phone company representatives talk to people seeking phones under the Lifeline program. (credit: CBS)

The company said based on the CBS4 report it would be providing evidence of wrongdoing to “the appropriate governmental authorities. Regarding the incorrect or improper statements by agents that were brought to our attention in your broadcast, all of the agents that were distributing for Total Call Mobile have been identified and their access to our system has been permanently blocked.”

The cellphone company said following the revelations in the CBS4 report it would implement new protocols to eliminate the fraud and abuse uncovered by CBS4. One of those new steps is a Total Call Mobile Fraud Tip Hotline, 1-800-589-6316.

The company is asking the public to let it know of any improper activity with regard to Lifeline applications submitted to Total Call.

 

[Droshki]

There is always going to be some people trying to scam something like this; it's the human condition. Hold on to your hat: Some people cheat on their taxes too.

 

[FrankT]

yep the obama times have made 1/2 of the population takers with little consequence, really sad.