Shooting in Kenosha WI 8.27.20

[Ricochet]

Unstoppable leaderless organizations. Good book. I stumbled across it in a secondhand store years ago. Which is interesting because if you read the book it goes into the underground and the secondhand a little deeper

I just bought it from Amazon.
Thank you.

 

[Big Shrek]

It is the planning that really scares me in the video posted below. The antifa planed it brilliantly. It went off with better than typically military precision. Makes me wonder exactly who or what is behind such events.

Makes me wonder why those III'rs haven't done anything to combat them yet.
Oh yeah, it's because they're all talk and no substance.

 

[Raven]

Makes me wonder why those III'rs haven't done anything to combat them yet.
Oh yeah, it's because they're all talk and no substance.

They have. It's not being reported on as much as it should be. The "Proud Boys" group of 3%'ers comes to mind. Wholesale woop ass. Nevermind the Oathkeepers work with nationally and internationally known Chuck Baldwin. Etc, etc. Oh yeah, and then theres the Prayer guys that just had one of their own murdered. And even though Kyle wasn't signed on with any named group, he's a 3%'er, too, along with everybody else who was there with him defending private property.

 

[Raven]

Makes me wonder why those III'rs haven't done anything to combat them yet.
Oh yeah, it's because they're all talk and no substance.

Are you going to go to do something? If not, quit badmouthing those who are going to do something

 

[Raven]

And guess what.... a lot of them cops are 3%'ers too, they're just smart enough to get paid for it and have some protections that the average joe doesn't get. Like brand new full autos and the fact that if anybody so much as lays a finger on them it's a felony

 

[fl57caveman]

I will throw something else into the mix here. It is called a purge. That within an organization or other group when those in charge get rid or demote those that they do not like. For the military they could do it with computer algorithms. They take everything that is on the net including what you purchase, read, donate to, etc. and decide if you are right or left. The first ones on the list that are to be gotten are the officer corps.
I remember listening to a talk by someone from a CIA think tank given downtown at the IHMC downtown in pensacola on how they could use such things against terrorists. They would figure out which terrorists were likely on the basis of the computer to do something and retroactively kill them.
The point that I am making here that the technology to figure out what side someone is on and just how dedicated is believed to be known by some.
Getting rid of loyal americans from the DoD is not impossible. I do not trust the current democratic party at all. Does not mean I love Trump, just that the democrats really scare me.

Obama purged at least 200 major officers in his time in office

 

[Big Shrek]

Are you going to go to do something? If not, quit badmouthing those who are going to do something

I ain't a III'r. I'm too old & entrenched in the system to fight it.
There aren't going to be any kind of Conservative Uprising when things
get truly bad...everyone is pretty much too far gone...
or too scared to loose what they have.

Still, III'rs aren't going to do squat.
They haven't done anything of substance since they began...
other than making money off of tshirts, hats & auto stickers.

Haven't seen/heard even ONE III'r pull up in a tagless vehicle,
lay down a curtain of fire on the rioters, then evade out,
circle around to the other flank & do it again...ain't like
the cops are going to be there to stop it.

All these rioters are free targets...even the Boogaloo goofballs
have yet to take advantage of the rioting...even in Portland.

Nobody has made a hit on any of the people that pay for or
foment the junk we're seeing these days, not one bad guy
in power has hit the deck yet. George Soros is still drawing breath.
Even COVID is afraid of him! And the last time a Liberal Reporter got killed
by a shooter, it was by a gay black Democrat...not a III'r.

The only hope the USA has of continuing to be a republic,
is if a meteor hits DC and wipes out the entire gov't in one blow.
I'm pretty certain this election will be jacked by ACORN, but even
if Trump wins in 2020, chances are the fix will be in for the next one.
In a very short time the Communists will have taken over...
and shortly after that the Purges will begin.

I was hoping COVID would be the purge needed, that it would take out
all the old geezerly Commucrats and a fair amount of their Usefull Idiots...
but now we all know that COVID pretty much won't kill you
unless you have really really bad health or HIV/AIDS.
If it can't drop my 74-yr old MIL who has COPD, a pacemaker for her bad heart,
removed gall bladder, and multiple other health issues, it really isn't that dangerous.

In short, we're all screwed, I'm just waiting to figure out if I need to
sail out to a small island far away where nobody will bug me.

 

[SteveC]

I have personal feelings about what happened as well. But self defense using a firearm does have an age requirement by law! Does not mean I agree or disagree with the age to own and posses a firearm. He was not 18 years old yet and not legally allowed to be in possession of a rifle in this manner. Did his attackers check his age before attacking him, of course not. If he was 18, he'd be a little more in the clear etc... But the fact is, he was not 18. For him to gain access to the firearm and go out there to be armed in that situation is pretty dumb if you ask me at his age.

This does not mean I don't agree with armed protection of businesses or more! I agree sometimes and disagree in other situations. But to be a minor and putting yourself or allowing you child to go into a riot filled area armed is just not the most smart thing to do. We have enough people against access to firearms. We don't need 17 year olds running around during a riot armed!

I am for youth being involved with firearms more than most. My children are all taught from about 3-4 years old how to shoot and more!

Part of self defense is not putting yourself in a situation where you have to defend yourself sometimes. Avoidance is a great self defense tool many times.

In my home, my children will be trained to whack a mole with firearms for intruders and more. They have the ability and right to use said firearms to protect themselves and their siblings in the home. But outside that, they are not running around in public.

First, I agree with you that a minor putting himself (& his mother allowing him to) into a situation such as was taking place in Kenosha was probably not an outstanding display of judgement on the part of mother, or son. Having said that, several states, like LA legally allow persons under 18 (LA limits it to 17) to possess and use a long gun & Federal law makes provisions for this but requires there to be consent of a parent or guardian involved. Federal law &, I believe all state's now prohibit purchase of firearms by any person under the age of 18, although most still include wording allowing possession and use of at least long guns by minors (with the above mentioned restrictions). Most states, like FL, have reworded their laws to explicitly state that minors may possess and use firearms with the express permission of, and under constant supervision of, a parent or guardian, but not all. Would have to grab my copies of 5300.4 & 5300.5 to check to see what Wisconsin & Illinois have on the books for additional municipality statutes but I am fairly certain IL has a bunch, as I recall the section in 5300.5 for IL is about 2-3 times the size for most states.

 

[SteveC]

Did you see what the surviving criminal and friend said here?:

Man Who Had His Arm Partially Blown Off Confesses to Friend: His Only Regret Was 'Hesitating to Pull His Gun' and "Not Killing" 17-Year-Old Rittenhouse | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Two men were shot to death and one wounded in Kenosha Tuesday night after riots erupted following an officer-involved shooting.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Amazing that people are stupid enough to post something this incriminating on a public media site. Perfect for use to show premeditation at a later date, even if they are only running their head because they are mad.

 

[SteveC]

Shit . . . many times in the past cops have come around taking away peoples guns,right.
Well . . . ??? --- SAWMAN

Haven't heard much about cops actively doing it, but politicians . . . . . . do some reading on the bonus army incident after WWI, if you are not familiar with it. I remember being pretty shocked at a couple of the names of the young officers who led that outrage.

 

[SteveC]

They are everywhere

That was one of my favorites, since the whole thing was supposedly over the sale of a shotgun "barely" under the legal limit, which is a tax violation, not a criminal one. So maybe the meme should read that "the government will happily kill your wife, child and your son's dog because they claim you did not pay for a fifty dollar tax stamp".

 

[General Snafu]

He's now in good hands as far as a lawyer is concerned. Lin Woods, the guy who got a settlement for Nick Sandman from media outlets has taken this kids case Pro Bono.

 

[Longtooth]

Every law, at its extremity, is enforced under penalty of death. :/

 

[wildrider666]

I, like many folks are currently just observers of what "Groups" say, do or don't do. Seems to my sense of fairness that being derogatory about their inactions to an observers standards (from your sofa) carries little weight. I acknowledge that I evaluate gmj/nfac based on their claims versus what they actually do, making Threats gets my attention.

Did Sun Tzu say: Tell your enemy your true Plans? If so, I missed it.

I think it's short sighted for anyone to say they have no "Line in the Sand" be it in D.C., the State, their front yard or their living room. My way of thinking for an "old guy" who is closer to the end of the trail than the start: it doesn't need a long fuze nor would there be any reservations about going into harms way (again). It's just a matter of which straw break's the camel's back. "Neutrality" may be claimed but as we have seen over and over again: innocents get attacked and killed too. You hear their messages "Silence is racism" "Whiteness is racism".

I'm not banging the drum for anyone to do anything, make your own decisions based on your convictions.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

 

[Snake-Eyes]

 

[FrommerStop]

One does have to be extremely careful what you say to medical doctor during the annual physical check up if they are not a personal friend that really understands the world as it is.

 

[Raven]

One does have to be extremely careful what you say to medical doctor during the annual physical check up if they are not a personal friend that really understands the world as it is.

Damn straight. I'm surrounded by doctors and nurses and I have only seen a few who would be considered on our side. And I've seen two or three times as many as that who are most definitely verifiably 100% not on our side raging liberals. And one nice lady who self confessed to being a proud Democrat Socialist, who migrated from England and claims in the same breath to be an anarchist libertarian

 

[Ricochet]

And one nice lady who self confessed to being a proud Democrat Socialist, who migrated from England and claims in the same breath to be an anarchist libertarian

Funny you said that as I am dealing with a vampiricco worker who first identified himself as an "independant" , then as an anarchist ( and jumped at telling me : "anarchy is not what you think it means" without ever asking me what I thought it meant ), then finally a progressive.

I guess being hollow inside and having no ID in Christ means you can be fluid in your identity and shapeshift with any given moment.

 

[Raven]

Funny you said that as I am dealing with a vampiricco worker who first identified himself as an "independant" , then as an anarchist ( and jumped at telling me : "anarchy is not what you think it means" without ever asking me what I thought it meant ), then finally a progressive.

I guess being hollow inside and having no ID in Christ means you can be fluid in your identity and shapeshift with any given moment.

I assume most of them dont bother reading or studying anything outside of Facebook, so unfortunately they're probably working off of hearsay as to what these different labels mean