MauserLarry
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Well, I'm damn sure not giving first aid to some jerk that tried to kill me
Might also have contaminated aids infected blood or something worse.Well, I'm damn sure not giving first aid to some jerk that tried to kill me
Self aid first BGs then if they are still alive. You ALWAYS come first. Cant help anyone else if you are dying.Might also have contaminated aids infected blood or something worse.
I asked one lady that was a military trained medic about home many she saved doing CPR. She said she had revived just one person out of more than 30 people. The odds are stacked against reviving many people.Good samaritan laws cover a lot. So if you decide to or not render aid to the BGs, you are covered legally.
Civilly, is a different matter.
I was sued in NJ when I stopped at a car accident and one lady was DOA, but I still worked on her with CPR and i intubated her.
Since I'm only certified as a basic EMT and not paramedic by the NREMT, they tried to sue for working outside of my scope of practice. However when I explained to the judge I was a combat medic in the army and was trained to do such things, it was thrown out.
Just a story about personal experiences.
Doc
Good samaritan laws cover a lot. So if you decide to or not render aid to the BGs, you are covered legally.
Civilly, is a different matter.
I was sued in NJ when I stopped at a car accident and one lady was DOA, but I still worked on her with CPR and i intubated her.
Since I'm only certified as a basic EMT and not paramedic by the NREMT, they tried to sue for working outside of my scope of practice. However when I explained to the judge I was a combat medic in the army and was trained to do such things, it was thrown out.
Just a story about personal experiences.
Doc
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This Is BS. You read all the time about “and nobody stopped to help”. This is why right here.
Yes I have only revived two through CPR and I have done over 40 patients that needed CPR. It's more of a feel good thing to do. Especially trauma injuries.I asked one lady that was a military trained medic about home many she saved doing CPR. She said she had revived just one person out of more than 30 people. The odds are stacked against reviving many people.
Use your head if you know that range is like that never go alone! an ounce of prevention and the likeSo here is something that I was thinking about the other day and thought it would make for good discussion. I sometimes shoot at a public range that is pretty remote. There is absolutely no cell phone signal there at all, can't even send a text. People show up there all hours to shoot, never know when someone is going to drive in. So here is the scenario...You are at the range shooting several guns. A car pulls in and parks a couple of spaces down from you. Two guys are just sitting in the car. You take notice of them then go back to shooting. You see them get out of the car and open the trunk. You observe they are not your typical gun range regulars, appear to be more the "thug" type. They are both doing something back there, you assume getting their guns and gear. You fire your gun empty and lay it down. At that point they run from behind the car holding guns, pointed at you, and shouting for you to get on the ground. You grab your gun, slam a fresh mag in and dive for cover. When they see you grab your gun they start shooting. You return fire and hit both bad guys. You are hit yourself, not fatally. One guy is dead, the other on the ground bleeding out. You approach, kick his gun away and start administering first aid but after about a minute you can't stop the bleeding and he is gone. Now what do you do? If you leave the scene to go get help or to get to somewhere you have cell signal to call for help what happens if someone else comes driving into the range and comes across the scene? Do you stay there hoping some random person will come driving in and you can send them for help?
Another thing that I do, don't know if you do or not, I never have an empty gun at the range. I either have my ccw on me or I have a loaded gun laying on the shooting table where I can get a hand on it quickly.
A few years, before I'd moved away, there were a couple billboards in Pensacola from the health department. One said that like 1 in 4 African American men in Escambia County had HIV. The other said that there had been like a 600% increase in syphilis in the area that year. Let them bleed.Well, I'm damn sure not giving first aid to some jerk that tried to kill me
Damn fine advice. Thank you. Never thought of it that wayAs stated I don’t shoot at public ranges but if you are setting up alone, it may be good to pick your lane depending on whether you are right handed or left handed. If you are right handed and set up in the far left lane, you would be facing the other lanes much of the time.
I understand the sentiment to let them bleed out, but when the family of the upstanding citizen you just shot sues you in civil court it sure looks a lot better for you that you tried to do something to save the scumbag.