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    You posted it, so I trust it's legit. Just doesn't seem real. :(
    The bidenen admin and un in ny have been trying to get us on the small arms ban treaty for years now. They think foreign troops will be more likely to confiscate our guns than American troops at home would... very dangerous way they are trying to get our guns...
     

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    The bidenen admin and un in ny have been trying to get us on the small arms ban treaty for years now. They think foreign troops will be more likely to confiscate our guns than American troops at home would... very dangerous way they are trying to get our guns...

    It’s very rare when two words hold such meaning:
    Two words, that can be held up on a flag.
    Words, that can inspire a cause and warn those who move against them.
    A phrase, which in modern times has been translated by the English-speaking world as “come and take them” or “come and take it”. If its literally translated, its “Come Take”.
    Supporters of the second amendment and the firearms community uses this term widely. It’s also on the emblem of the Greek First Army Corps and in the United States it’s the motto for the Special Operations Command Central (SOCCENT)

    Pronunciation​

    “ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ” or “Molon Labe”, pronounced in the United States as (Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay). If you want to pronounce it like the Greeks it’s (Mow-Loan-Lah-Vay).

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    Greek (UPPERCASE): ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
    Greek (First Letters Uppercase): Μολὼν λαβέ
    English (UPPERCASE): MOLON LABE
    English (First Letters Uppercase) : Molon Labe

    Translation and Grammatical Rules​

    Let’s first properly translate the two words today as we see it on military patches, flags, banners, bumper stickers, T-shirts, books, military patches and even engraved on firearms. The two words are translated to mean “come and take it”. The two words “Molon Labe” are just two words in ancient Greece, which when literally translated, mean “Come Take”. The Greeks did not need to use a conjunction like “and” in order to link the two verbs “come” and “take” they would also not use the word “it” or “them” at the end because of the rules of the Greek language.
    The phrase is implied by context, for instance; if I was holding a soda and you walked up to me in a forceful manner and told me to give up my soda I could simply say “come take” because the two verbs implied my intention and under the context of the situation, I already understood your intention, therefore “and” and “it” are not necessary so the literal translation is simply “Come Take”. Now let’s look at who said it and when.

    Greek History and Origin​

    King Leonidas of Sparta – King Xerxes of Persia used the words Molon Labe before the Battle of Thermopylae in 480 BC. This battle was technically lost by the Spartans when King Xerxes with his army of 10,000 men ordered the small Spartan army of 300 men to lay down their weapons. However, it was a moral and tactical victory for Sparta and its citizens. It allowed several days advance time for the people of Sparta to evacuate to the islands of Salamis. Later the Greeks would go on to defeat the Persians at the Battle of Salamis and crush them a year later at the Battle of Plataea.
    So, how do we know these words were spoken by Leonidas to Xerxes? We know this because it was written in a book of 78 essays called Moralias (The Morals) by a man named Plutarch later named Lucius, after becoming a Roman citizen. He was a well-respected biographer, magistrate, ambassador and even a priest.

    Use of the Phrase​

    So now you know who said it and when and who wrote it. But why does it become such a bold statement today?
    My personal opinion is that a tyrant or tyrannical government is the same threat to freedom and liberty today as it was back then. When the words that have that much meaning are uttered in defiance to a tyrant not just with malice, but with the backing of morality then those words are timeless, and stand for the same moral fight faced by us and the Second Amendment supporters today.

    American History​

    But what about another flag we sometimes see? A flag with a cannon and the words “come and take it” below. Is this in reference to the same thing technically? No, however; the words of Leonidas are timeless and just saying the words hark at a time when brave men in the face of death would stand in front of a tyrant, and defy him the flag with the cannon and the words “come and take it”.
    It’s called the Gonzales flag, this flag has roots in the Texas Revolution or the Texas War of Independence. This was a war between the Texas colonists and the Mexican government known as the Battle of Gonzalez that went on from 1835 to 1836. It led to the establishment of the Texas Republic. The flags historical significance mirrors king Leonidas and his own resistance.
    Here’s a quick breakdown in a short hand version of how the canon flag came to be. The canon was given to the Texas settlers in 1831 by the Mexican government. It helped them repel attacks from Comanche raids. Later, in 1835 the Mexican government decided maybe it wasn’t a good idea to give these settlers such a weapon and demanded it back. A letter was written by the settlers telling the Mexican government that they would not be given the cannon back. The letter further read that if they wanted it back they’d have to “come and take it”. A contingent of 100 Mexican troops was sent to the fort at Gonzales where a small flag was flying with the same words that were sent to the Mexican government, it said “come and take it”. This became a battle cry for the Texans who defeated the Mexicans with a militia of about 150 men. Sadly, no one knows what happened to the cannon it was kind of lost to history so anyway.
    I hope I was able to teach you guys a little bit as I really did learn so much myself researching this.
     

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    Guess i should've said "set phasers to stun"?
     

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    So we can't sell our guns anymore, I guess I might as well hand them over. Can someone from the UN let me know where the local drop off station is. Me and some friends can be there within the hour.
     

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    So we can't sell our guns anymore, I guess I might as well hand them over. Can someone from the UN let me know where the local drop off station is. Me and some friends can be there within the hour.
    Ha ha ha, ssssssshhhhhhhh they haven’t realized this isn’t a well thought out plan.
     

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    I was in the Air Force when President Obama signed in the law it was ok to use drones over US soil. The clause in there is they can’t use them against non combatants. At the time overseas combatants where military aged males that were armed after we told them to put their guns down. Well in a country where we have the 2nd amendment the right to bear arms. How does that law make sense? But after seeing what they did during Katrina and how they constantly these days over step it’s clear. They have been setting this stage very gradually, Very intentionally over the years, What the hell.
     
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