12GA, .22MAG, .38SPEC & 9MM are my nightstand friends..
if they get by the 255 lbs of dogs that is...
if they get by the 255 lbs of dogs that is...
the 357 is replacing a 1903 springfield rifle that used to reside under my bed12GA, .22MAG, .38SPEC & 9MM are my nightstand friends..
if they get by the 255 lbs of dogs that is...
DANG, is that the only option in nj for home protection ? a 30-06 rifle from ww1? guess you could fix bayonet and beat someone to death with it... kind of cumbersome.the 357 is replacing a 1903 springfield rifle that used to reside under my bed
the upstairs gun was a 300 winmag and the den gun was an AK 47 ,i am dialing back with the 357 in fla lolDANG, is that the only option in nj for home protection ? a 30-06 rifle from ww1? guess you could fix bayonet and beat someone to death with it... kind of cumbersome.
if i touched a 300 winmag off in the house, 6 dogs , wife, and 2 cats would never be the same again....and my ears too. cause you don't normally have ear protection on at 0200the upstairs gun was a 300 winmag and the den gun was an AK 47 ,i am dialing back with the 357 in fla lol
THANK YOUProblem is current 357 ammo is downloaded compared to years ago . The old Federal red box 357B load with the 125gr Hyshok JHP was the one-shot wonder back in the day . Expansion was violent . Overpenetration on felonious bipeds is the 357's biggest problem regardless of bullet choice . All that said your best bet for factory push the envelope loads will be the botique stuff like Underwood , Buffalo Bore etc . Or do like the rest of us & roll yer own . I've got loads that I shoot in a Blackhawk that'd shoot a S&W or Colt loose / out of time in 2,000 rounds or less . You should see some of the 38 / 44 level 38 special loads I shoot from a 1953 S&W pre-model 23 Outdoorsman . Can push the Elmer Keith designed 170gr SWC an honest 1400fps 6.5" barrel . Look at the ballastics of the original pre-WWII 357 Mag loads & compare them with todays published data . PM me for further discussion .
Yep, factory ammo is loaded weak. 10mm vs 40sw is a good example. The numbers for factory 10mm are just a hair higher than the factory 40sw. Sucks. If you want magnum force your gonna have to reload unless you buy the underwood, Buffalo stuff. YmmvProblem is current 357 ammo is downloaded compared to years ago . The old Federal red box 357B load with the 125gr Hyshok JHP was the one-shot wonder back in the day . Expansion was violent . Overpenetration on felonious bipeds is the 357's biggest problem regardless of bullet choice . All that said your best bet for factory push the envelope loads will be the botique stuff like Underwood , Buffalo Bore etc . Or do like the rest of us & roll yer own . I've got loads that I shoot in a Blackhawk that'd shoot a S&W or Colt loose / out of time in 2,000 rounds or less . You should see some of the 38 / 44 level 38 special loads I shoot from a 1953 S&W pre-model 23 Outdoorsman . Can push the Elmer Keith designed 170gr SWC an honest 1400fps 6.5" barrel . Look at the ballastics of the original pre-WWII 357 Mag loads & compare them with todays published data . PM me for further discussion .
Current Buffalo Bore loads : 19C 158 JHP 357 Heavy 1,398fps from a 3" S&W Model 65 , 19D 125gr JHP Heavy 1,476fps from same 3" S&W 65 . Real world m/v's not Youtube bs . Hotter u on yer own & get a Ruger . Problem you'll have with these level loads is keeping that Python in time .THANK YOU
thank you ,it wont get a steady diet of hot stuffCurrent Buffalo Bore loads : 19C 158 JHP 357 Heavy 1,398fps from a 3" S&W Model 65 , 19D 125gr JHP Heavy 1,476fps from same 3" S&W 65 . Real world m/v's not Youtube bs . Hotter u on yer own & get a Ruger . Problem you'll have with these level loads is keeping that Python in time .
lol thanks ,i guess i am older i was thinking lee jurass super vel ammoI keep some Triton Quick-Shoks in my model 19-2 beside the bed. I would be happy with gold dots, FTX, etc these days. I must be getting old because I just looked at my 1911 and it is loaded with Corbon 165 JHP and a spare mag of Golden Sabers lol. It might be time for some new ammo.
I don't feel so old...but maybe I am. I have Super Vel....my 1911 Carry has Corbon 185gr DPX and the back up is TalonsI must be getting old because I just looked at my 1911 and it is loaded with Corbon 165 JHP and a spare mag of Golden Sabers lol. It might be time for some new ammo.
lol That super vel must be 40 or more years old ,i remember shooting it out of a ruger super blackhawk 44 mag, the muzzle blast alone could killI don't feel so old...but maybe I am. I have Super Vel....my 1911 Carry has Corbon 185gr DPX and the back up is Talons