What does pre-ban mean exactly?

[outside9]

What does it mean when you see this? I assume it has somthing to do with the previous weapons ban that ended.

Why is it important now?

 

[Welldoya]

I believe that in some states only some guns and mags were grandfathered in. So none produced after the ban are allowed.
Mostly communist states like Kalifornia and some in the northeast.

 

[outside9]

I believe that in some states only some guns and mags were grandfathered in. So none produced after the ban are allowed.
Mostly communist states like Kalifornia and some in the northeast.

So when the ban ended, there were no new ones built or imported in the states that allowed them?

 

[Gravity3694]

Some states like New York and Connecticut passed mirror image laws of the 1994 ban without a sunset. In effect the ban is still in place in those states.

 

[Patoz]

The term 'Pre-Ban' generally refers to any restricted item manufactured before the original Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) went into effect on September 13, 1994.

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called "assault weapons". The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment.


The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision.

Read the rest here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

Since it expired in 2004, which made it null and void, the only reason I can think it would be important now is because the current proposed ban is built off of that, and the fact that Diane Feinstein wrote both of them.

 

[outside9]

Thanks, I just notice some folks ask that questions when buying/selling.

 

[shootnstarz]

Really it refers to a time in history when women didn't use deordorant.

Rick

 

[Fanner50]

Really it refers to a time in history when women didn't use deordorant.

Rick

Some still don't.

 

[shootnstarz]

Some still don't.

Yuk !!!!

Rick

 

[Stanley13]

Per ban is a term used to sell guns to dumbasses that r buying .223 rounds for $1 each! End of story.(well maybe not I do kinda agree with the under arm stink thing?)

 

[wildrider666]

During the 10 years of the 1994 AWB ban all banned firearms and high-cap mags that were made after the start date had to be marked law enforcement use only. If you were a Civ and got caught with a loaded LE mag or ownership of a LE restricted firearm you could be charged. It was at this point Colt stopped making Civ "AR" models. When the AW Ban expired. You could own LE only mags and Firearms. In turn you can go to WallyWorld and buy a Colt LE6920.

DURING the AWB several firearms manufactures made changes to their configurations so they could continue importation and/or sales. as an example: AK's were renamed, removed folding stocks and pistol grips and replaced them with thumb hole stocks, they removed folding bayonets and muzzle devices, Altered feeding device locks and magazine capacities. AR manufactures did the same types of changes.

When the AWB expired, manufactures put these features back into production BUT also continue to make the "94 ban" models for restrictive states as mentioned above.

 

[shootnstarz]

During the 10 years of the 1994 AWB ban all banned firearms and high-cap mags that were made after the start date had to be marked law enforcement use only. If you were a Civ and got caught with a loaded LE mag or ownership of a LE restricted firearm you could be charged. It was at this point Colt stopped making Civ "AR" models. When the AW Ban expired. You could own LE only mags and Firearms. In turn you can go to WallyWorld and buy a Colt LE6920.

DURING the AWB several firearms manufactures made changes to their configurations so they could continue importation and/or sales. as an example: AK's were renamed, removed folding stocks and pistol grips and replaced them with thumb hole stocks, they removed folding bayonets and muzzle devices, Altered feeding device locks and magazine capacities. AR manufactures did the same types of changes.

When the AWB expired, manufactures put these features back into production BUT also continue to make the "94 ban" models for restrictive states as mentioned above.

You have to admitt, the last AWB worked. Did you ever hear of anybody getting bayoneted during the ban?

Rick

 

[Bean Counter]

It means I want to sell you this gun for more than its worth.

 

[wildrider666]

Bean Counter's point is is historically correct for "then" and now as reflected in the last line Second paragraph below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_Weapons_Ban
[QUOTEThe Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law of the United States that included a prohibition on the sale to civilians of certain semi-automatic so called "assault weapons" including military-style semiautomatic rifles, derived from assault rifles but with lesser capabilities. There was no legal definition of "assault weapons" prior to its enactment, but assault rifle is a technical term referring to rifles capable of semi-automatic and full-automatic fire; no such weapon was affected by the AWB. The ten-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994 and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment. It expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision......

During the period in which the AWB was in effect, it was illegal to manufacture any firearm that met the law's definition of an "assault weapon" or "large capacity ammunition feeding device", except for export or for sale to a government or law enforcement agency. Possession of illegally imported or manufactured firearms was outlawed as well, but the law did not ban the possession or sale of pre-existing "assault weapons" or previously factory standard magazines which had been legally redefined as "large capacity ammunition feeding devices". This provision for "pre-ban" firearms created a higher price point in the market for such items, which lasted until the ban's sunset.[/quote]
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That was 10 years of if you didn't have it and wanted it you paid the going rate OR you bought a Post Ban modified variant. The Gov could have voted to extend the ban or make it permanent. They wisely let it die. manufactures put the original features back on there firearms.

The current proposals are more restrictive then those in 94. It would limit NEW AW sales to non Gov/LE/Mil of weapons that were legal to buy during the ban and many others previously unmentioned. If this ban is passed as written it will not have a sunset provision and will be permanent unless turned over in whole or part by the courts and would surely go to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Any bets on a Olympic Arms Pump action, selectable triple tube fed Tyranny Adjustment Rifle (TAR-3)?