Owners of this breed of dog,check the fine print of your homeowners policy. --- SAWMAN
A dog on my yard that bites me would not be able to repeat it. There are people that tolerate that from their dogs. A good dog is precious and hard to replace, a dog that bites the hands that feeds it is not wanted.They were by far the most popular MWDs in our unit. Interestingly the one with the most bites on handlers was a black lab!
The worst mankillers ever bred in the Americas were the Cuban Bloodhounds that were Mastiff crossbred with some sort of wolfhounds.JDJ developer of the Johnson American bulldog. "The majority of dogs that I have had returned to me over the years have been returned following protection training. I feel that these dogs can be trained from a protection or Schutzhund type standpoint, but I think that the dog trainer must be very highly skilled. These dogs can be extremely ferocious towards any animal and to direct this degree of fury towards a human being is dangerous. I know of no quicker way to ruin one of these dogs than to place him in the hands of a less-than-expert dog trainer who trains him to attack human beings." JDJ
La Monteria Infernal …… The dogs the Conquistadors brought with them were Mastiff breeds who were hardly the lap variety or destined for the plate. These attack dogs, often wearing their own armor, were the common European shock and awe tactic of the period. The first documented New World use of these canine swat teams occurred in 1495 when Bartholomew Columbus, Chris’s brother, used 20 mastiffs in a battle waged at Santa Maris el Antigua, Darien with his brother employing the same approach a year later. These dogs were trained to pursue, disembowel and dismember humans and to this purpose, enjoyed a human diet in the Americas. The Spanish reveled in holding human hunts called “la Monteria infernal “ where much sport was made of chasing and killing the local men, women and children. The noted Spanish apologist Bartolme de La Casas has left us numerous accounts of the exploits of these hounds from hell and it is easy to understand why these horrific memes still prevail in the cultures of Latin America. The names of many of these dogs so esteemed by the Spaniards still live on and here are but a few: Bercerruillo the terror of Borinquen, until he was fallen by 50 arrows, received a salary one and a half times that of an archer from his owner Ponce de Leon.
Leoncillo, Bercerruillo’s son, was Balboa’s warrior, earned over 500 gold pesos in booty during his many campaigns, and he was the first Western dog to see the Pacific.
Bruto, De Soto’s champion, received 20 slaves as spoils before his career ended.
Scores of firsthand accounts tell us how the dogs attacked local Caciques [chiefs] both dead and alive. Perhaps this information may help to explain the innate fear held by many cultures for man’s best friend and fiend. https://elvalleinformation.wordpress.com/spanish-war-dogs/
Thanks. The dog was the black lab I mentioned earlier and he bit the handler and this did seem to infuriate the handler. It was a tense scene to witness.
Okay, I am going to play devils advocate here. Raised dogs since I was 9 years old. German shepherds, Chesapeak Bay Retrivers, Doberman Pinchers, beagles, Boxers, Boxer Pit Bull mixes Daschund/Terrier mixes. Too be honest I have been bitten by more cats than dogs. Was never an expert at it but yet you are telling us that you can get into the head of that dog and the handler and actually know why the dog did what it did or why the handler did what he did? Just wondering.Yeah: using a leash to angrily choke a dog unconscious is animal abuse. That handler shouldn't be allowed around MWD's.
To the topic of discussion, a Malinois, or any well-trained working dog should be treated with Respect. They have the ability (some much more than others) to obliterate any human target they wish. They refrain from doing so, out of training, trust, and a human/animal bond.
The fact that the MWD "turned on him" is more a comment about the handler, than any judgement on the dog.
Okay, I am going to play devils advocate here. Raised dogs since I was 9 years old. German shepherds, Chesapeak Bay Retrivers, Doberman Pinchers, beagles, Boxers, Boxer Pit Bull mixes Daschund/Terrier mixes. Too be honest I have been bitten by more cats than dogs. Was never an expert at it but yet you are telling us that you can get into the head of that dog and the handler and actually know why the dog did what it did or why the handler did what he did? Just wondering.
Okay, I am going to play devils advocate here. Raised dogs since I was 9 years old. German shepherds, Chesapeak Bay Retrivers, Doberman Pinchers, beagles, Boxers, Boxer Pit Bull mixes Daschund/Terrier mixes. Too be honest I have been bitten by more cats than dogs. Was never an expert at it but yet you are telling us that you can get into the head of that dog and the handler and actually know why the dog did what it did or why the handler did what he did? Just wondering.
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We should all be able to agree that None of us can read minds, right? So, your "question" is ridiculous, at face value, but I'll address what is probably your concern.
I never said WHY any of it happened. I spoke to the handler's actions, and hell yeah, I passed judgement. I may not be able to read his mind, but I can make educated inferences.
It's an MWD, and the handler is responsible for that MWD. Apparently this MWD already bit multiple times NOT on command. The handler should know either what sets off their dog, or at a minimum should be able to recognize the warning sign behavior of their dog to know it's being pushed down that road.
If this handler knew his dog bites "unpredictably", then it should be addressed concurrently with both training and extra precaution. And until he can solve the situation, when it bites again unpredictably, he shouldn't be surprised.
So, here's a handler whose dog acts out. Instead of being prepared for it, (because it has happened before), he acts In Anger and Chokes His Dog Unconscious.
If you're attacked by a dog to the point that you need to subdue it to save yourself, and you manage to choke it out, great. But while it's out for those 20 to 30 seconds, as was mentioned, secure the mouth with a muzzle, or an expedient/makeshift muzzle. Perhaps have the non-k9 Handlers get out of the area?
So, no, I don't know exactly what was going through either animal's mind, but I'm pretty sure it was a situation that most likely could've been either avoided altogether or at least handled much more professionally.
To bring this slight derail back on topic: a Malinois is energetic. Working dogs need to spend energy. Their handler should be able to read the behavior cues to know how the dog is doing. Professional handling requires patience, and consistent application of appropriate inputs. If someone isn't willing to put in the time and effort, then they shouldn't bring certain dog breeds into their lives.