Based on that. During a intense or “hot” situation. Listen carefully and follow all orders given by the police. You may end up in cuffs for a brief period but it will resolve itself and everybody gets to go or stay home as the case may be. Simple easy advice.
I remember stories of when people respected the police officer. If not the person themself certainly the position held. And if something wrong did happen thats what the court system is for.. Too many people have lack of respect for the position and try to bucknthe system at the wrong time. Police have a job to do and holding court on the street is not one of them. Thats what the lawyers and judges are for
The first article you listed does not apply. Even though the police were at the wrong house, law enforcemnent told him to drop the gun which he REFUSED to do as the article states. If he would have complied with that simple order then the situation would have resolved itself. I can almost guarantee they told him Multiple times to drop the gun and he refused
The bad guys get the wrong house sometimes too. Almost 20 years ago two guys banged on the door of my friends house looking for some drug money. Even after they were told multiple times the person they wanted didn’t live there. His wife was on the phone with 911 when they kicked in the door. My friend shot him as he came through the door with a bat. Fortunately his wife was narrating the entire event with 911. The police showed up before his buddy got out of the neighborhood.
"Not 100% the fault of the police." How the hell do you figure it's not 100% the fault of the police? There were at the wrong house by your own admission. I have always supported the police but any police raid on the wrong house should be immediate termination of all concerned, regardless of whether any violence occurred or not.
if my door breaks down suddenly @ 0215 in the am, without my dogs alerting me, somebody is getting shot.
multiple times..
if it is a BG(s), and I do not kill him with the first shot(s) , he will be DOA by the time the LEO arrives...
if it is LE, then they have the wrong address, and may God help them, and me.. there have been instances before, of stolen, or fake uniforms before, and if I am not fully awake, I do not want to think of that...that is truly a rare circumstance..
what ever happened to the old days?, they knocked on the door, id'ed themselves, and said they have a search warrant...then you turn on the light, id them, and let them in, all legal and nice...
this bit of sneaking up, using a hammer-sledge to breach the door, all while yelling in 5 different voices, is asking for trouble.esp if dressed all in black
Yeah man I definitely cheated, I drew of a number of articles, stories and experience outside of jebs’ Original post.
Cheater Seriously, the articles were intended as examples and were not intended to limit the discussion.
I will say as I browsed the internet I found a bunch of wrong address shootings in GA.
If you’re not cheating you’re not trying.
Here’s another aspect, what if they don’t get the address wrong. I’m sure we’ve all heard at one point or another of “SWATTING”. Police think it’s a legit call, they get the address right, and the homeowner is still confused.
Now I’d think that so long it isn’t some odd hour and it’s a patrol responding, that should clear itself up. Except there’s cases in the past where it hasn’t.
As far as a self defense shooting, that’s easy. Reholster the heater after the threat has been neutralized, then make the call.
Law enforcement officers aren't in the top ten Most Dangerous Jobs.
Rank Occupation Fatal injuries per 100,000 workers Total deaths
1 Logging workers 135.9 91
2 Fishers and related fishing workers 86 24
3 Aircraft pilots and flight engineers 55.5 75
4 Roofers 48.6 101
5 Trash and recycling collectors 34.1 31
6 Iron and steel wokers 25.1 16
7 Truck and sales drivers 24.7 918
8 Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers 23.1 260
9 First-line supervisors of construction trades and extraction workers 18 134
10 Grounds maintenance workers 17.4 217
Source: Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries, 2016
I would have thought it was , but apparently It's not as dangerous as we've been told.
I am really surprised and bothered by the high number of fatalities of professional pilots and flight engineers.
In keeping with Maxman's "cheating" philosophy - in researching some articles on this, I found information on the number of death resulting from high speed chases. In response, most states including Florida have passed laws requiring LEO to establish clear guidelines for when high speed chases are permitted. This change has been for the better. I wonder if we should legislate some additional limitations as to when "no knock" or "hard knock" warrants can be issued, i.e. put the onus on the judge to require certain criteria before allowing officers to served these types of warrants. Limit the time of day the warrants can be served . . .
The difference is most non-traffic related injuries to LEOs are intentional and not accidents. Event traffic related can be homicides. There was a lady LEO that was recently killed by juvenile burglar that ran her over.Law enforcement officers aren't in the top ten Most Dangerous Jobs.
Rank Occupation Fatal injuries per 100,000 workers Total deaths
1 Logging workers 135.9 91
2 Fishers and related fishing workers 86 24
3 Aircraft pilots and flight engineers 55.5 75
4 Roofers 48.6 101
5 Trash and recycling collectors 34.1 31
6 Iron and steel wokers 25.1 16
7 Truck and sales drivers 24.7 918
8 Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers 23.1 260
9 First-line supervisors of construction trades and extraction workers 18 134
10 Grounds maintenance workers 17.4 217
Source: Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries, 2016
I would have thought it was , but apparently It's not as dangerous as we've been told.