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When conceal turns into open question?
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Florida has some specific wording, but as long as you aren't showing it off it's ok if the wind blows your shirt up or if you reach for something on a top shelf and your weapon is visible temporarily you are protected
The problem may come from a responding LEO (if one is called) and to what he knows or thinks he knows. His interpretation of the law might cause you a lot of grief or aggravation, a court date and an attorney's fee. Every case does not meet a certain Scenario so be careful and use common sense.
SAWMAN
Master
Why the fork would you do ANYTHING that would warrent the already scared shitless responding police officer to shoot you,put you face down in a mud puddle,or call you a motherfucker,in front of your wife and kids,if you already have the right to carry a concealed weapon ???
I will try to help the LEO by anticipateing what he wants,what he is thinking,and his mandate,at or before he shows up. I want to let him know that I am one of the good guys. I will have my ID's out and present them to him ASAP. I will be as respectful to him as he is to me. I will try my best to help him out in the job that he has to do.
I feel that he is AT LEAST as tense over this whole situation as I am. I will try to understand his way of thinking as best as possible. I will not argue with him. That surely is not the time. --- SAWMAN
I will try to help the LEO by anticipateing what he wants,what he is thinking,and his mandate,at or before he shows up. I want to let him know that I am one of the good guys. I will have my ID's out and present them to him ASAP. I will be as respectful to him as he is to me. I will try my best to help him out in the job that he has to do.
I feel that he is AT LEAST as tense over this whole situation as I am. I will try to understand his way of thinking as best as possible. I will not argue with him. That surely is not the time. --- SAWMAN
Duckyou
I don’t give a Weiner shit!
Florida is not alabama.
Florida has very strict open carry regulations for some reason.
In Alabama I believe open carry is ok as it is in most other states. This means you are ok if someone sees your firearm so long as you have your concealed weapons license for having it concealed in the first place.
Florida has very strict open carry regulations for some reason.
In Alabama I believe open carry is ok as it is in most other states. This means you are ok if someone sees your firearm so long as you have your concealed weapons license for having it concealed in the first place.
SAWMAN
Master
Problem (FOR YOU) is this. - - -> what percentage of the general public do not know the laws of open carry ?? What percentage of the general public do not even know that OC is legal (if it is) ?? What percentage of responding LEO's do not understand all of the above ??
In this day and age,with what is going on in our cities across the nation,would I myself open carry ?? NOT ON A FORKIN BET ??
I know,I know . . . it's my right. But is it smart ?? I can present my weapon faster than the average person can present theirs that OC's. Faster most likely because I am more awhare of my surroundings than most.
And - -> if you OC and I treat you differently than someone that carries concealed . . . that is on you,not me.
I say . . train with your weapon of choice. Get proficient. You will not find the need to open carry. --- SAWMAN
In this day and age,with what is going on in our cities across the nation,would I myself open carry ?? NOT ON A FORKIN BET ??
I know,I know . . . it's my right. But is it smart ?? I can present my weapon faster than the average person can present theirs that OC's. Faster most likely because I am more awhare of my surroundings than most.
And - -> if you OC and I treat you differently than someone that carries concealed . . . that is on you,not me.
I say . . train with your weapon of choice. Get proficient. You will not find the need to open carry. --- SAWMAN
Yes, you are still legal in Alabama.
Even if open carry was legal in Florida, I would opt to stay concealed. If you walk into a bad situation, ie., a convenience store robbery, you become a target if you are seen as a threat. I had rather look like I just showed up for the parade, and look for a chance to take care of the situation IF and WHEN the situation arose. Over the years I have ran a lot of "what-ifs" thru my mind, and I had rather be the old man in the background with a surprise. The same goes for a confrontation in a parking lot.
wildrider666
Master
Non-lawyer, FWIW.
You "ARE" either carrying CC (IWB or OWB) or your carrying OC. In your example, your CC and because of your movement and improper attire the firearm was exposed to public view. That's bad etiquette but not against the Law. Alabama Law addresses CC but there is no State definition for "concealed" so common law definition would apply meaning out of view. However, there is no law in any State stating "printing" (outline/pattern of) of a firearm is a violation of the Law. When the excuse is changing from CC to OC, it could be precarious dependent on location and circumstances: a clerk at the local Stop and Rob sees you enter without a gun and then sees you walking down aisles with a exposed gun. Clerk might pucker up a bit.
AL Law under Disorderly Conduct States:
(c) It shall be a rebuttable presumption that the mere carrying of a visible pistol, holstered or secured, in a public place, in and of itself, is not a violation of this section.
You "ARE" either carrying CC (IWB or OWB) or your carrying OC. In your example, your CC and because of your movement and improper attire the firearm was exposed to public view. That's bad etiquette but not against the Law. Alabama Law addresses CC but there is no State definition for "concealed" so common law definition would apply meaning out of view. However, there is no law in any State stating "printing" (outline/pattern of) of a firearm is a violation of the Law. When the excuse is changing from CC to OC, it could be precarious dependent on location and circumstances: a clerk at the local Stop and Rob sees you enter without a gun and then sees you walking down aisles with a exposed gun. Clerk might pucker up a bit.
AL Law under Disorderly Conduct States:
(c) It shall be a rebuttable presumption that the mere carrying of a visible pistol, holstered or secured, in a public place, in and of itself, is not a violation of this section.
Why is this whole thread full of responses about "what happens in FL" when the OP states this is in Bama? Any state I can open carry and have the appropriate holster to do so, I do open carry! It is such a freeing experience!
Follow the law of you state and you are good.
Big Shrek
Marksman
That's a Stage Two CC Fail, but in Alabama it likely won't be an issue.
Most folks will roll their eyes at you and think, "DUH-huh"
Inside a large city (Montgomery/Birmingham) it'd make you a target.
If you are going to OWB, at least put a handcuff case next to it,
even if you ain't a cop, it'll keep the most from being too big a headache,
because they'll think you are a cop...but then cops are catching a lotta flack
lately too...
a Pocket Shot is a good option!
(BATF ruled legal, since the slide is not enclosed) but illegal in California.
OWB means pulling a shirt over it...but it's still gonna print like mad.
and on some folks, no pull-over shirt is going to help hide it...
So, in the end, if you are worried about your gun peeking out when you move a certain way,
maybe a different carry apparatus needs to be employed??
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Rebel_Rider1969
Well Known Nuisance
Yep, your right on the money for alabama. In 20 years those gals will be able to carry 3 sw 500's an no one would see, lol.
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