Yes, much cheaper ammo. Perhaps steel case wolf.The debate between the FN 5.7 chambering pistol and the 22mag chambering has perhaps faded away . . . with no clear winner.
IIRC on the plus side for the 5.7 were the magcap and penetration of that magical/mystical,one load,available from FN ONLY. I believe that it was a blue poly tip. Plus there were no offerings of hicap 22mags from Kel Tec . . . as in PMR and CMR.
The FN Five Se7en and PS 90 are still around. (Waaaaay overpriced IMO.) The PS 90 still has the draw of 50 shot mag I guess. And then there is a proven reliability factor. The three or four different loadings were expensive,are expensive,and will forever be expensive. The magic load from FN used to be outlawed and may still be. You know how that goes. The average working man is not to be trusted because the round could/would penetrate a cops vest (just like most 5.56 ammo will do) . . . but scary anyway.
For me - - -> the KelTec 30 shot 22mag (CMR or PMR) would be enough for me. ESPECIALLY since they use the same mag.
A small plus for the intro of the Ruger could be,the rise in availability of 5.7 ammo and/or,a tiny drop in cost. ---- SAWMAN
Unless the ammo comes down I would look at a 9mm conversions for 22 TCM 9R.Generally, mag capacity in CC handguns has fallen from a top priority as evidenced by the production and sales. House pistols still favor higher mag capacities. 5.7 handgun wound ballistics show very small "crush" and "cavity" compared to handgun 9mm, 357 SIG, 40S&W, 45APC. Velocity and capacity is nice to have but if those two factors aren't driving magic bullets, is the really something of value there other than a range toy? A bunch of barrier/gel testers say its lacking. In the real world we don't find standardized testing and repeatable results. However, there are cold hard results we should consider and ignore all possible variables: the Fort Hood Murderer used a 5.7: 13 killed and 29 wounded.
If a person's Holy Grail is pistol mag capacity, Ruger adds an option. I was thinking a balance between a solid copper (harder) projectile and propellant might restore the "penetration" of banned ammo. I found these:
Another varation: https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/vanguard-outfitters-v57-prime-5-7x28/15242
Jacketed Hollow Point
Nickel Plated Brass
Rounds Per Box
50 Rounds Per Box
Boxes Per Case
20 Boxes Per Case
The 5.7 cartridge may be wiz-bang-wow in a pistol but not so much in a rifle. It is easily beaten by the 5.56 and we note the increases in projectile weight over its history due to battlefield results and the necessity for improvement.I've had the FN and the AR in 57....neat little round and this Ruger is a good looking pistol but I think I'd rather have a PMR 22mag
If the ammo will come down I could see highpoint making both carbines and pistols in it. I have watched some detailed reviews and the ruger 57 compared to the FN is the better gun relative to design. What I like most is that frame could be modified very easily for longer pistol rounds like 7.62x25, 30 us carbine, and some of the wild cats like the dillon rounds.The 5.7 cartridge may be wiz-bang-wow in a pistol but not so much in a rifle. It is easily beaten by the 5.56 and we note the increases in projectile weight over its history due to battlefield results and the necessity for improvement.
I was thinking of commenting that Ruger might produce a 5.7 carbine but that potential market niche would be very small. However, an AR format pistol W/brace might have wider appeal due to the cartridges efficiency from short barrels, low weight and low recoil. I know the AR57 LLC rifle used a FN P90 mag and dumped empties "down" the mag well. I wonder what capacity could be achieved within the length of a standard AR mag using bottom feed design and side eject? The common 5.7 blowback operating system would also allow it to be a folder and or a "very short" OAL. This configuration brings a lot to the PDW table and cartridge compatibility if you run any 5.7 pistol. Food for thought.
I was watching a video by Paul Harrel on a comparison of the two guns and he claims that his FN FiveseveN is not a reliable gun in his experience.I held one in my hands and wasn't all that impressed. Felt cheap, but it did have a nice trigger. Essentially a long slide Security 9. I spoke with a rep and Ruger is having issues with keeping up with demand as well as issues with the guns themselves. Don't have exact details but don't expect to see a lot in your LGS for a while. Meanwhile, FN is dropping their MAP pricing on the Five-seveN pistol so they're move competitive. It will still be more than the Ruger but at least they're reliable and have a proven rep. I have no intention of buying one but I am happy to see more guns chambered in the caliber. Also heard that Ruger has plans to add a PC carbine in 5.7. That will be pretty sweet if they keep the weight down. They're pretty heavy imo for 9mm.