Liberty gun safes giving out master codes?

[Duckyou]

Have you read up on the Liberty Gun safe issues?

Without a subpoena Letter Betty has been giving out gun safe master codes.

They ask for a copy of the warrant but do not require police/atf to subpoena the information.

From what I read, I am not going to be buying Liberty anytime soon.

 

[OperationalPinecone]

Me and a buddy were talking about that. Some guy that was in the J6 stuff the Fed Bois looked him up and he had a Liberty Safe, they got the code for it and rolled his house.

The lengths they are going to exploit that day should really wake some people up.

 

[Fear21]

From what I read, I am not going to be buying Liberty anytime soon.

*ever, IMO

 

[G-rat]

My big box isn't a Liberty and I'm happy about that!

 

[IronBeard]

looks like Liberty is courting a big government contract....

 

[FLT]

Liberty has a good many points against them , I‘d change the brand of lock and have a friend order it for me.

 

[Longtooth]

From the horses mouth

 

[ammodave]

If they don't have a code and you refuse to open the safe won't they just cut it open?

 

[Longtooth]

If they don't have a code and you refuse to open the safe won't they just cut it open?

If you refuse to open it, isn't that refusing the warrant? Denying them access to a location listed in the warrant?

 

[DAS HUGH!]

If they don't have a code and you refuse to open the safe won't they just cut it open?

Yep.
That or have a locksmith show up on the tax payers dime.
Either way, they're getting in.

With that being said tho they should have insisted on a subpoena. They're now basically the same as when the airlines, delivery services and credit card companies just handed over people's information without being forced.

I don't like the idea that now those agents have a secret cheat code to all safes now. I'm no safe expert by far. I don't like the idea of them having a universal code whatsoever. But I guess there's likely a law that forces them to idiotproof them for in emergencies and kids get inside them etc. I wonder if they could have skirted that by putting a glow in the dark handle to open it from inside tho. Maybe then they wouldn't need universal codes?