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    ilintner

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    Please keep for sale posts on topic and respectful, there will be zero tolerance for disparaging remarks and derailing of for sale threads. If you are not an interested buyer, please refrain from posting in a seller’s ad. Also try to utilize private messages when practical.

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    You must include a price on all items for sale, no auctioning.

    2. If you are looking for a trade you must include a realistic trade value for your item even if you aren't interested in selling.

    3. Do not remove items or prices after the item sells; prior sales will help other members to gauge the value of items.

    4. No advertising is to be posted in this forum, this area is for actual guns for sale only. Gun deals belong in the gun deals section.

    5. Include your LOCATION and PRICE (required) when posting your item for sale, this will help other members to gauge how interested they are.

    6. No Linking to items for sale outside of this forum. That means no linking to listings on Facebook, Craigslist, Armslist, eBay, Gunbroker, other forums, etc.

    7. No “bumping” of your listing more than once every 24 hours, or if the listing is still on the front page of that section (first 20 posts) even if 24 hours has already elapsed. That includes updates such as price drops, additional items, details, photos, etc. Just update your original post instead.

    8. Please edit your thread title to add *SOLD* to the beginning when the item is no longer for sale. Please do not create a new post in your thread to advise it is sold, as this “bumps” an item no longer available back to the top.

    9. You must include at least 1 picture of the item, in your possession, that you are selling! That means not just photos you got off the internet.

    10. All potential buyers are responsible for conducting their OWN DUE DILIGENCE regarding the functionality, efficiency and overall quality of any listed item for sale.
    It is not appropriate for members to post their positive or negative experiences with a product or seller/buyer on a for-sale thread. These reviews, while valued, must be posted in the appropriate section of the forum.

    If you see any issues, please use the “report” feature to notify moderators/administrators and we will take care of it.
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    Attached you will find some of the ATF's FAQ's direct from the ATF's website located here: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/

    Please review these and any additional points of interest on the site provided.

    Q: To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?
    A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

    Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?
    A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

    Q: May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State?
    A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]

    Q: May an unlicensed person obtain ammunition from an out-of-State source?
    Yes, provided he or she is not a person prohibited from possessing or receiving ammunition.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n)]

    Q: Are there certain persons who cannot legally receive or possess firearms and/or ammunition?
    Yes, a person who —

    Has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year;
    Is a fugitive from justice;
    Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance;
    Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution;
    Is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa;
    Has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
    Having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his or her citizenship;
    Is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner; or
    Has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence
    Cannot lawfully receive, possess, ship, or transport a firearm.
    A person who is under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year cannot lawfully receive a firearm.

    Such person may continue to lawfully possess firearms obtained prior to the indictment or information.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n), 27 CFR 478.32]

    Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
    A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

    [18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]

    Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
    A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

    Q: May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?
    Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.

    Q: May a person who is relocating out of State move firearms with other household goods?
    Yes. A person who lawfully possesses a firearm may transport or ship the firearm interstate when changing his or her State of residence.

    Certain NFA firearms must have prior approval from the Bureau of ATF before they may be moved interstate. The person must notify the mover that firearms are being transported. He or she should also check State and local laws where relocating to ensure that movement of firearms into the new State does not violate any State law or local ordinance.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(4) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.28 and 478.31]

    Q: What constitutes residency in a State?
    The State of residence is the State in which an individual is present; the individual also must have an intention of making a home in that State. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. An alien who is legally in the United States is considered to be a resident of a State only if the alien is residing in that State and has resided in that State continuously for a period of at least 90 days prior to the date of sale of the firearm. See also Item 5, “Sales to Aliens in the United States,” in the General Information section of this publication.

    [18 U.S.C. 921(b), 922(a) (3), and 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.11]

    Q: May a person (who is not an alien) who resides in one State and owns property in another State purchase a handgun in either State?
    If a person maintains a home in 2 States and resides in both States for certain periods of the year, he or she may, during the period of time the person actually resides in a particular State, purchase a handgun in that State. However, simply owning property in another State does not qualify the person to purchase a handgun in that State.

    [27 CFR 478.11]

    Q: May aliens legally in the United States buy firearms?
    An alien legally in the U.S. may acquire firearms if he has a State of residence. An alien has a State of residence only if he is residing in that State and has resided in a State continuously for at least 90 days prior to the purchase. An alien acquiring firearms from a licensee is required to prove both his identity, by presenting a government-issued photo identification, and his residency with substantiating documentation showing that he has resided in the State continuously for the 90-day period prior to the purchase. Examples of qualifying documentation to prove residency include: utility bills, lease agreements, credit card statements, and pay stubs from the purchaser’s place of employment, if such documents include residential addresses.

    See also Item 5, “Sales to Aliens in the United States,” in the General Information section of this publication.

    Q: What record-keeping procedures should be followed when two private individuals want to engage in a firearms transaction?
    When a transaction takes place between private (unlicensed) persons who reside in the same State, the Gun Control Act (GCA) does not require any record keeping. A private person may sell a firearm to another private individual in his or her State of residence and, similarly, a private individual may buy a firearm from another private person who resides in the same State. It is not necessary under Federal law for a Federal firearms licensee (FFL) to assist in the sale or transfer when the buyer and seller are “same-State” residents. Of course, the transferor/seller may not knowingly transfer a firearm to someone who falls within any of the categories of prohibited persons contained in the GCA. See 18 U.S.C. §§ 922(g) and (n). However, as stated above, there are no GCA-required records to be completed by either party to the transfer.

    There may be State or local laws or regulations that govern this type of transaction. Contact State Police units or the office of your State Attorney General for information on any such requirements.

    Please note that if a private person wants to obtain a firearm from a private person who resides in another State, the firearm will have to be shipped to an FFL in the buyer’s State. The FFL will be responsible for record keeping. See also Question B3.
     

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    We are just getting started but we want to keep the BS to a minimum.

    Please keep for sale posts on topic and respectful, there will be zero tolerance for disparaging remarks and derailing of for sale threads.

    1. You must post a price on all items for sale, no auctioning.


    2. If you are looking for a trade you must post a realistic trade value even if you aren't interested in selling.


    3. Do not remove item or price after the item sells, prior sales will help other members to gauge the value of items.


    4. No advertising is to be posted in this forum, this area is for actual guns for sale only. Gun deals, belong in the gun deals forum.


    5. Include your location IN THE TITLE OF YOUR THREAD when posting your item for sale, this will help other members to gauge how interested they are.


    6. No Linking to items for sale outside of the site. If you want to post something for sale on the forum, go to the effort to post it here for our users. (this means no facebook or craigslist links)


    7. No bumping of Ads more than once every 48 hours, or if the Ad is still on the front page if 48 hours has elapsed.


    8. Please mark your thread SOLD when the item is gone, this will help us to keep the for sale section organized.


    9. If you are not comfortable with the asking price, or disagree with the value of an item offered, look elsewhere. It is not appropriate for any member to tell the original poster that the item is available for less, or isn't worth the asking price. It is also not appropriate to publish links to other products, negative reviews, or comments that in any way could impede the sale of an item.


    10. Comments and discussions will be limited to inquires about the product, history of ownership or FAVORABLE first hand experience with the item being offered.


    11. All potential buyers are responsible for conducting their OWN DUE DILIGENCE regarding the functionality, efficiency and overall quality of any listed item for sale. It is not appropriate for members to post their negative experiences with a product on a for sale thread. If you bought this product and hated it, that opinion can be posted as a review in an appropriate section of the forum for all to view. These reviews, while valued, must be posted in the appropriate location.





    Will add more later.


    Thanks!



    I'm going to bump this for the reading impaired. Please go fix your ads.
     

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    Don't know how Kev feels about it,but I like the idea of a mod simply deleating the add.
    Another option would be putting on the add . . "DELEATED" . . then locking it.
    ME . . . as long as I have been a member,and I simply forgot,and my add got deleated,I could definately understand. I would simply repost . . the correct way. --- SAWMAN
     

    donr101395

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    Don't know how Kev feels about it,but I like the idea of a mod simply deleating the add.
    Another option would be putting on the add . . "DELEATED" . . then locking it.
    ME . . . as long as I have been a member,and I simply forgot,and my add got deleated,I could definately understand. I would simply repost . . the correct way. --- SAWMAN


    That's the thing, I'm not trying to be a dick and say you can't repost your ad. Just repost it within the guideline set in the rules. JW and I could easily spend most of our time on the forum just fixing for sale ads if we were inclined.
     

    donr101395

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    It seems this new format has made for even worse for sale ads


    It's not the format, it's just people not following the rules. I've been using this same software on paragon pride since 2013 and don't have the same issues.
     

    JWlineman

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    It's a user issue not a format issue. If you're new here, there's some grace involved. Members who are just lazy get different treatment.
    We love all y'all though;)
     

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    One last time. I've already started deleting threads. Put the location in the title or it will be deleted when discovered.
     

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    I'm going to bump this for the reading impaired. Please go fix your ads.
    OK, HOW do I bump an ammo listing to the top? I see no way other than to re-post, but that leaves the old listing hanging since it apparently can't be deleted... thanks!
     
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