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Anyone know of any deals on 300 Blackout? Subsonic or Supersonic.

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I was just in the market for some. I don't need it for COVI, and don't want to pay COVI prices.

I may have to wait for Post COVI to buy.

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The Gemtech from Nate runs well in my 300blk with a Sandman S. Just FYI

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The Gemtech from Nate runs well in my 300blk with a Sandman S. Just FYI

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I am going to get some from Nate.

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The wolf will be bringing it in as steel cased. I am signed up to buy some when it arrives. I suspect it will not be the currently advertised 20 cents a round. It was supposed to be here in March, but I have not heard anything.

Wolf Polyformance 300 Blackout Ammo 145 Grain FMJ Steel Case
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Product SKU # :TS300BLKFMJ1 | MPN: 300BLKFMJ1 | UPC # :
Wolf Polyformance 300 Blackout Ammo 145 Grain FMJ Steel Case
$3.99 /$0.20 Per Round
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Where can I sign up to see when it comes in stock? I'd like to buy a ton of this stuff if it's that cheap or close to it.
 

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Some guns do not like steel cased ammo. Ymmv.
I am being cautious my previous post. But both of my 7.62x39 ARs seem to do well with once I used the proper firing pin. In 5.56 the topic of steel case has been beat to death. Seems important to keep you chamber clean with it, especially before going back to brass cases. Can not say more on the 300 blackout steel until I try some.
 

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update on the steel case wolf
Questions & Answers

Frequently Asked Questions
Question:Do we have a date yet when these will be available? Mid March is very soon. - Davis (03/10/2020)
Response:delivery date moved to Mid-April. Not much is coming in due to the virus etc.. Thank you for your patience.
Question:1985fps is not subsonic as was answered to the one question about when you will have subs. Great price on these supers! Hope to grab some as soon as they hit - Chris (03/03/2020)
Response:Hi Chris, this is not accurate data as this is a brand new SKU for Wolf 300 Blackout Ammo. As soon as we get all the information and correct ballistics, we will update the description. Thank you for your patience.
 

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If your gun won't run steel, that's a problem. Just my opinion. I'd be looking for a different gun.

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Yup. Not that I advocate running steel, but not running it points to deeper underlying problems.

Having said that, Wolf looks good. Especially if you’re running a cheap, easy to replace barrel where the accelerated wear won’t matter.
 

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On steel there is a lot written on the .223 rem and also 5.56 chambers. In 300 blackout it is unknown relative to what issues there may be if any. In 7.62x39 the issues are connected to firing pin length. With the amount of shooting that I do and also the close ranges used wear in the 7.62x39 will probably not be an issue. Big difference in shooting sub moa and shooting minute of man.
If wear is a concern making your barrel surfaces chrome or nitride coated to slow down wear. I am not really up on the wear issue in 5.56.
Here is a link for steel vs federal in 5.56. https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/
Me for right now, my go to carbine/rifle for SD will be my MAK 90 AK or my PTR91.
 
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For a 5.56 steel vs brass linked above- summary
If you regularly shoot steel cased ammunition, it might be a good idea to replace your extractor along with your barrel, or at 5000 rounds, whichever comes first. Replacement extractors are not very expensive. Changing the extractor spring at the same time doesn’t require more work – just set aside the old extractor and spring assembly and install the new one after popping the new spring into place in the new extractor.

You should replace average OEM extractor springs beginning at 2,500 rounds and no later than 5,000. Better extractor springs will not require such frequent replacement with any ammunition – the Colt “Gold” extractor springs used in each rifle starting at 5,000 rounds were still providing reliable extraction at the 10,000 round mark, and would not have required replacement after 5,000 rounds.
Which Ammo To Buy
If Federal Brass Cased Ammo Performed So Great, Why Bother Buying Steel Cased Ammo?

The performance of the carbine firing Federal ammunition in this test was undoubtedly impressive. We fired approximately 412 pounds of ammunition with very minimal maintenance in austere conditions without a single malfunction. The fact that the rifle remained serviceable and combat accurate from the first shot to the last – could hardly be improved upon. To many who read this report, this is all the justification they need to purchase this type of ammo.

Is Brass or Steel Cased Ammo More Cost Effective?

Although ammunition prices are volatile, the prices of brass and steel remain similar to one another. That is, brass is generally more expensive than steel. We created a chart comparing the cost over time of each type, including ammunition and spare parts replacement costs.

The difference in price between brass and steel cased ammo (more specifically, copper jacketed and bimetal jacketed) means that you’ll have plenty of savings with which to buy new barrels – even if you shoot so fast that you replace them every 4,000 rounds. For this chart, we calculated brass ammunition at $130 per thousand higher than steel and replacement barrels at $250 apiece.
<img src="http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Brass-vs.-Steel-Sunday-e1357509017349.png" alt="Chart indicating brass vs. steel cost comparison"/><p style="text-align:center"><a href="http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo" title="Read more at LuckyGunner.com/labs">Copyright: LuckyGunner.com</a></p>
The final decision is up to you, but now that you know some facts, you can make a better-informed decision in the brass vs. steel cased ammo debate. https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/
For your combat loads buy quality brass cased ammo loaded to nato specs. If you use the steel for practice, do a detailed strip and clean on a regular basis and clean the gas tube since in the above testing it did get obstructed with some steel case ammo use.
 
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