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    Virgina SB64:
    http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/leg...3plQdjlqqi9zI2xPPla-tdmJBlxJ_UddpCLZbmQjEGcVM

    Don't drill, march or parade with a firearm either, if a snowflake is intimidated, thats a Class 5 Felony too. Sombody better pass this to the VFW, American Legion!

    The way this is written, it appears that if lawful training, say for a CWP and the student years later unlawfully shoots a person: the State of VA can come back and prosecute the Instructor because the instruction provided aided the shooter!

    Dems will unanimously Pass it.
     

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    "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe, [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT][SIZE=-1]101 Things to Do'Til the Revolution[/SIZE][/FONT]
     

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    wildrider666

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    donr101395

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    You guys do realize that.this same law almost verbatim has been in Florida for several decades..... don't you?


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    wildrider666

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    so the essence of the law, is to make it illegal to rise up against the state......nice

    short step to declaring militia groups illegal from there, while Antifa walks freely about
     

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    VA's has the "intimidate snoflake penalty/provision":
    3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

    Here's FL:
    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes...tute&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.29.html
    Look up 876.19 Florida is even more strict than that.

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    Plotting the overthrow of government is already illegal at the federal level. VA is just following suit, I guess, and as I understand things, states are allowed and at times encouraged to be more restrictive than the feds. At least the federales tend to allow that citing "sovereignty" of the states. This is not good for freedom, and like Florida's red flag legislation, has huge potential to serve as a template for national legislation. Why would any good-for-nothing legislator start from scratch when they can just copy, paste, find and replace, and get re-elected for their "achievement?" Locally, I think it's about time we stop voting for the guy in the back of his pickup with the vote for me sign, and really start paying attention to who we vote for and what they stand for. If gun rights are important to us, we better make that a deciding factor because the best of the worst is still worse than the best.
     
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    The legal verbiage has a requirement of "intent" to cause a civil disturbance. For example, if you are doing firearms training to prep for a crime, or you are doing group grappling and sparring to be better prepared for a planned looting/riot/etc, that would be illegal.

    So... if you do those "evil militia things" with the INTENT of using those skills in a civil disturbance, and they can prove your INTENT, then you're a felon before you ever attended the civil disturbance.

    Lawyers and politicians. They are like kids writing stupid rules to a schoolyard game that no one even plays.
     

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    i always look at it from a defense / offense .. and therein lies the "intent" issue ... defensive/offensive training or assy is hard to discern without knowing "intent" beforehand...
     

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    The Sky May Fall on Your Head Tomorrow, but Tomorrow Never Comes .
    Ancient Gauls (Celts) of France said the only thing they were afraid of was the sky falling.

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