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Thank you for your highly inaccurate information.
* Also the sundown "law" was to keep people of color out of towns after dark. A racists "law".
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Pensacola has run some its homeless population over to Santa Rosa County, FL
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Thank you for your highly inaccurate information.
* Also the sundown "law" was to keep people of color out of towns after dark. A racists "law".
Thanks, I like the Texas sundowner law. Lol.
you r welcome
What's highly inaccurate? I don't really care what the purpose of Texas' Sundown Law is or was; it just is. Ask repo men in Texas about the law; take your life in your hands in Texas trespassing at night.
If something is inaccurate, state your case!
What's highly inaccurate? I don't really care what the purpose of Texas' Sundown Law is or was; it just is. Ask repo men in Texas about the law; take your life in your hands in Texas trespassing at night.
If something is inaccurate, state your case!
FrankT
6.8 SPCII Hog Slayer
always have a wiped clean knife, just sayin, I was in fear of my life, besides it is a felony to hit a person over 65 in FL so do not hit me...ouch, ouch, I said don't hit me.
wildrider666
Master
We have a few "permanent vagrants" in PCB. I only see them when they are on the move with all their belongings. There's even a few couple's you always see together. Only see occasional panhandling at the on ramp for the Hathaway Bridge. Low profile might be LE avoidance so they don't bother the nice tourists and scare away their money. There are more broke kids in their 20's that blew return money on too much partying but they don't stay long. There's a limited space homeless shelter that also provides meals in Panama City, big crowd around that place.
There are the deliberate society drop outs, the mentally ill at large and those impacted by economics, only the latter will work to help themselves to a better position if it doesn't take too long. Mental and physical adjustment to circumstances leads to acceptance without hope and refusal to try anymore.
Overall, the homeless problem is minor around the Gulf now. Look at the vast tent cities in Portland, San Fran, NYC and others! They even changed laws so it wasn't illegal to piss or crap in public. Now they have a small army of guys getting paid over $100K a year to pressure wash the crap into sewers. They are still people and doing what they feel they need to in order to survive another day, until they can't. I remember when fundin was stripped from mental health programs, it dumped thousands onto the street and many of those continue going through the revolving door of jails and prisons without much treatment. Cops are complaining of the health hazards from having to handle the homeless.
CDC says:
https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/resources/resources-homelessness.html
There are the deliberate society drop outs, the mentally ill at large and those impacted by economics, only the latter will work to help themselves to a better position if it doesn't take too long. Mental and physical adjustment to circumstances leads to acceptance without hope and refusal to try anymore.
Overall, the homeless problem is minor around the Gulf now. Look at the vast tent cities in Portland, San Fran, NYC and others! They even changed laws so it wasn't illegal to piss or crap in public. Now they have a small army of guys getting paid over $100K a year to pressure wash the crap into sewers. They are still people and doing what they feel they need to in order to survive another day, until they can't. I remember when fundin was stripped from mental health programs, it dumped thousands onto the street and many of those continue going through the revolving door of jails and prisons without much treatment. Cops are complaining of the health hazards from having to handle the homeless.
CDC says:
https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/resources/resources-homelessness.html
It is mostly not wanting to put up public monies to deal with it. Money would not get them all off the streets, but the proper services would help might help many.
They just sent 4.5 million to the border for the illegals, but the dems are not so willing to help the homeless.
Relative to health hazards, people sleeping rough scare since they are exposed to mosquitoes. Any illness that they catch go into the same population of mosquitoes that might bite me. Just not a good scenario.
They just sent 4.5 million to the border for the illegals, but the dems are not so willing to help the homeless.
Relative to health hazards, people sleeping rough scare since they are exposed to mosquitoes. Any illness that they catch go into the same population of mosquitoes that might bite me. Just not a good scenario.
It's not racist. That's the same ole baited trap bs people use these days. Everything is racist. The law was put into effect because of cattle rustling. It also serves as a staunch private property protection law in today's world. Great law in my opinion!!! Not too be too willy nilly with it; it doesn't allow for just busting out the door and shooting someone...but if that someone is trying to steal from you or damage property then YES, you can shoot. Does not have to rise to the level of self defense...the law is to allow protection of private property.
A great example for contrast is Florida. Here, we can't use deadly force except as provided by the "Castle Doctrine". So a few nasty looking folks are marauding around inside your fenced and posted private property; what can you do? Call the law! Can I put a gun on them and hold them; NO! And the lawful remedy is a piece of paper, a trespass warrant. Like a ticket. If they are armed the rules change as is it then a felony trespass. In Texas, if a man is prying open the door of your car on your property, you can shoot him.
Nothing racist about it. I think the poster was referring to the Vidor Texas rule...'_______ don't let the sun go down on you in Vidor! Kinda famous last holdout of strong racism. Some of these old book laws are interesting...like common law where the spouses both have to sign for a house. In the old west the men would drive cattle and gamble away the farm. The wife and kids booted. So the law is to make it where she has to sign too!
wildrider666
Master
I think there is some confusion: Texas Penal Code 9.41 & 9.42 justifies use of deadly force including trespass for property crimes at night. Sundowner Laws/policy/intimidation targeted racial, ethnic or religion. Blacks, Chinese and Jews are among those targeted.
I took a concealed carry course in Texas about 15 years ago and didn't remember it being that way.
Here is a 2013 article.
http://nation.time.com/2013/06/13/when-you-can-kill-in-texas/
wildrider666
Master
The Lethal Force killings in the Article at Post #32 were all justified under the Texas Penal Codes I listed. If it's not a deterent, it is most definatly the last offense they commit. Just because your technically justified to use deadly force, doesn't mean you have to use it but I won't armchair quarterback those limited info Cases.
In this state even when legal, if the local media does not like a stand your ground killing, often CCW gets indicted such as Zimmerman and that parking lot killing.
wildrider666
Master
Anything else on the homeless?
Backing up to a creek or wooded area is great until criminals or homeless start using said access!!!! Lived it in Charleston, SC. Never want to again. Had low income housing through some woods that my house backed up to. Criminals were using the woods to gain entrance to our neighborhood and cause all kinds of problems with breakins and more! Almost ended up shooting someone myself! Cops ended up having to chase him through the woods and never found him!
I don’t have any answers, for the homeless problem. It seems on the surface that many of them choose that life style. But that’s based on looking from the outside in . One thing is for sure ,if they take up living on or around your property there are going to be problems that have to be addressed. We had some commercial property that was vacant and finally had to tear it down and strip the property of any vegetation, in order to discourage them living there. Any thing else we tried was a complete failure. The property became a total eyesore and zoning and code enforcement were threatening legal action, leaving us with very few options.
What is highly inaccurate is that it's legal to shoot a trespasser at night. It's not, it's legal to shoot a thief at night, but not a trespasser. The simple act of trespassing without aggravating circumstances like stealing doesn't rise to deadly force even in Texas.
