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    It's 2019. "Reparations" is a welfare handout to buy votes.

    Those who seriously advocate for it are either wanting the handout or wanting to buy the votes.

    Everything else is just smoke, mirrors, and genuine "WTF" moments...
     

    fl57caveman

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    not no, but hell no..

    suck it up deadbeats, get a J O B, it is time all the ox start pulling this wagon, low income citizens too, 10% tax is not too much..
     

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    At our normal monday morning for the Men's Coffee meeting at the Pace, FL Village Inn some people were talking about it. And one claimed it was aimed at disadvantaged neighborhoods and not explicitly on the basis of race. It was supposed to be directed at infrastructure. That would an improvement over just writing out checks to people.
    But still someone has to pay for it.

    That "one guy claimed" needs to read the Bill. He is ill informed.
     

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    That "one guy claimed" needs to read the Bill. He is ill informed.
    He seems to be misinformed and so it seems are a lot of other people also.
    OK I read the bill and what is proposed a study to recommend. Literally that is a first step and no money is going to anyone except the commission set up to do the study

    115THCONGRESS 1STSESSIONH. R. 40 To address the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to study and consider a national apology and proposal for reparations for the institution of slavery, its subsequent de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.

    This is the document: https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr40/BILLS-115hr40ih.pdf

    An apology is ok, but first we should make one to the surviving native Americans.
     

    Snake-Eyes

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    What a Colossal WASTE of resources. Seriously? "Get the F0¢€ over yourself" should be the response to whomever wants an apology. Sue the government. Make your case to the SCOTUS. Stop wasting our time and money.

    WTF.
     

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    I owe no one an apology, I never owned a slave . In fact I’ve never met a slave. Unless you count the young men that were drafted into service of the United States, if they count then I’ve known many. Best I remember We didn’t get a choice it was compulsory service or prison time . But I guess that’s different because we weren’t all negros,we were just mixture of many nationalities. But the fact remains many of us would have never left our homes if we had of had a choice. slavery comes in many different forms.
     

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    I owe no one an apology, I never owned a slave . In fact I’ve never met a slave. Unless you count the young men that were drafted into service of the United States, if they count then I’ve known many. Best I remember We didn’t get a choice it was compulsory service or prison time . But I guess that’s different because we weren’t all negros,we were just mixture of many nationalities. But the fact remains many of us would have never left our homes if we had of had a choice. slavery comes in many different forms.
    Probably a topic for a different thread, but is obligatory military service a form of involuntary servitude. It is common in many western countries that males must serve in the military for about two years.
     

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    This nonsense drives me nuts. My father came to America from PEI, Canada in 1928.

    My mother’s parents came from Germany and Holland in the 1900’s, so why would I be expected to pay reparations to someone just because our skin colors fit the need to buy more democrat votes.

    Every day I see democrats apologizing for being white, some apologize every day.

    I had no choice in my birth race, it simply is white. No apologies, no bragging, it just is. They (democrats) need to get over it.

    Seems to me American Indians should be the ones with complaints.
     

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    Probably a topic for a different thread, but is obligatory military service a form of involuntary servitude. It is common in many western countries that males must serve in the military for about two years.

    That’s for the most part true, but for many it was a life sentence. What about them ? Do they not matter ? Their families suffered and it wasn’t a 150 years ago many of their children still remember their fathers not coming home. Many of their mothers aren’t living as well as they would if their sons were here to look after them. I fell to see how that is not relevant when discussing reparations. It would be easy enough to document who deserves to be paid , wouldn’t it ? Oh ,but that wouldn’t buy liberal democrats any votes . So let’s not discuss that while we are trying to promote white guilt and buy votes.
     
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    SAWMAN

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    All 4 of my grandparents were German. So were their parents.
    I will not apologize for the holocaust . . . I sure as fuck will never apologize for slavery. --- SAWMAN
     
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    Reparations paid already. Civil Rights Act of 1964 followed by endless affirmative action and EEO legislation packages.

    Don't forget the increase crime right after the middle 60s until around the 80s and the constant crime in our major ciities. You can almost find a correlation between the black population of city and if its high crime or hot. ALso lets not forget when they ( not all the riff raff) dont get their way they destroy their own neighborhoods that are often taxpayer subsidized like the watts riots and then la riots

    It's 2019. "Reparations" is a welfare handout to buy votes.

    Those who seriously advocate for it are either wanting the handout or wanting to buy the votes.

    Everything else is just smoke, mirrors, and genuine "WTF" moments...

    How have modern democrats gotten votes except buying them or pandering? They pandering with our immigration laws for the brown vote and go soft on crime for the black vote along with the regular hand outs. Notice its always democrats defending soft on crime policies or felons voting? I mean how pathetic is it that you have to be soft on crime to be elected in many cities with very large black populations like Philadelphia, PA. Their DA is pathetic.

    not no, but hell no..

    suck it up deadbeats, get a J O B, it is time all the ox start pulling this wagon, low income citizens too, 10% tax is not too much..

    That is why we knew mitt Romeny was going to lose in 2012. He promised a job for those in our inner cities struggling.

    What about going back to the "SOURCE" that sold them?

    Hell i would be lukewarm to reparations if they include a one way tickeet back with loss of citizenship. YOu take them you go back. Many blacks are so wraped up on africa, african names and customs ( in spite of many not being able to name 5 countries on the continent) yet most would never want to live there. I bet if we could time travel 95% of american blacks would not want to keep their ancestors from becoming slaves because it would mean they would be living in huts in africa. Hell being on the dole here you are much better off.

    Probably a topic for a different thread, but is obligatory military service a form of involuntary servitude. It is common in many western countries that males must serve in the military for about two years.

    In theory i agree., but so is jury duty. They have a supreme court case taht said the draft did not count as involuntary servitude. I guess that is because the soldiers are paid. Jury duty is pretty close to slavery as many places you dont get paid.

    This nonsense drives me nuts. My father came to America from PEI, Canada in 1928.

    My mother’s parents came from Germany and Holland in the 1900’s, so why would I be expected to pay reparations to someone just because our skin colors fit the need to buy more democrat votes.

    Every day I see democrats apologizing for being white, some apologize every day.

    I had no choice in my birth race, it simply is white. No apologies, no bragging, it just is. They (democrats) need to get over it.

    Seems to me American Indians should be the ones with complaints.

    Yes they apologize for being white, but if you notice most are married to white people, their kids are married to white people and they live in the most exclusive, gated ( yet they think its ok for illegals to break in) communities and only see or deal with blacks at election time yet blacks dont see it

    Anyone recall when some loudmouth black "ladies" interrupted a Bernie rally about black lives matter and then threatened to shut the event down "If you don't let her speak"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2iMM7m12zE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoRleNh_EEw

    If anyone knows in the first video the one guy they interviewed actually sounded like her was about to say a black slur about her but caught himself. That just shows you what many white liberals think of blacks.

    Anyway my wife is from a very white area of PA. No black kids were in her high school the 4 years she was there and 20 plus years later there are maybe 2. She said to me "its almost like the guy in the video with the mike and bernie "worship them". I informed her "no baby. they just consider them useful idiots and over 90% are too stupid to realize it". Hell all they have to do is look at a place like detroit and see how voting democrats has "helped" the black man or how the black family has virtually been destroyed by the democratic party since LBJ's great society. I wont go overr it but there are many out there who said exactly how he felt about blacks and their voting patterns.
     

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    All 4 of my grandparents were German. So were their parents.
    I will not apologize for the holocaust . . . I sure as fuck will never apologize for slavery. --- SAWMAN

    This is what I call a good solid bloodline. I'm only part German.
     

    Ric-san

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    My question is are the Hawaiians or rather Polyneasean settlers who lost out to the U.S.governement take over/annexation of Hawaii in 1898; are we giving them any reparations...?, they were second class citizens in their own country. Just curious...
     
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    My question is are the Hawaiians or rather Polyneasean settlers who lost out to the U.S.governement take over/annexation of Hawaii in 1898; are we giving them any reparations...?, they were second class citizens in their own country. Just curious...

    When are you coming back up to the casino Rick? Any way, if red-neck southerners had realized how much easier Mexicans were to work with, they never would have had to ship in slaves. And, if the North had just built "the wall" at the Mason-Dixon line, instead of keeping the south in the Union with a war, everyone would be happy.
     

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    When are you coming back up to the casino Rick? Any way, if red-neck southerners had realized how much easier Mexicans were to work with, they never would have had to ship in slaves. And, if the North had just built "the wall" at the Mason-Dixon line, instead of keeping the south in the Union with a war, everyone would be happy.


    damn fine idea.....the nc/va border works for me, and the southern border...ship the slaves to mexico , and take the Mexicans in...

    women are wayyyy better looking too
     

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    "A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned."
    —Thomas Jefferson (1801)
     

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    damn fine idea.....the nc/va border works for me, and the southern border...ship the slaves to mexico , and take the Mexicans in...

    women are wayyyy better looking too

    Great point, but democrats are determined to do to mexicans what they did to blacks. I do think mexicans are smarter and wont be lap dogs anywhere near as long as blacks have let democrats kick them around
     
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