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    A very well done article by the Sun-Sentinel on the Parkland shooting, complete with surveillance video, radio traffic and info-graphics. I hadn't realized before how many people failed that day besides Deputy Peterson.

    Here’s a minute-by-minute look at those critical moments on Feb. 14, 2018.

    UNPREPARED AND OVERWHELMED
     

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    I read that same link elsewhere. This is one case where it would have been better if there was no official security since what they had did some harm and not anything useful.
     

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    Fucking useless..those cops, all of them who first responded.
     

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    The Bullet Points everyone needs to take note of...

    A. The two security professionals who spotted him with a rifle case, especially the second one who saw him taking the rifle out of the case under the stairwell, yet did NOT call in a Code Red immediately.

    B. The total Ineptness of the Broward County Sheriff's Office...from top to bottom. Not just the four Deputies that FAILED to enter and go after the shooter...but everyone who showed up at the scene for Broward FAILED TO ACT ON EVERY LEVEL!

    C. The only good thing done was the Police from the neighboring city who DID show up and BYPASSED Broward's Cowards and went in search of the bad guy upon arrival.

    D. the 20-Minute delay in the school cameras...What moron thought that bit of intelligence up??
    Schools need REAL TIME INFORMATION!!!

    E. If the Coach who got killed in the first minute had been able to HAVE and UTILIZE the CC weapon & Permit HE ALREADY HAD, this shooting wouldn't have been a MASS one. The little twerp might have bumped a few off, but the coach would have lit his butt up instead of only being able to charge at him to distract him from other students. The fact that the Coach was UNABLE to Protect his students with his concealed carry permit & weapon should not be lost on anyone. It wasn't lost on Gov. Rick Scott, because he passed TEACHER CARRY into law.

    F. The next time those Parkland Students show up to raise some money and trouble, makes sure a few good folks are there with that Article in hand so they can ask those kids about all the things that the folks who were supposed to protect them didn't do...so they'll quit blaming AR15's and start blaming the Broward Cowards and the Security Schmucks, not to mention the Mental Health Care idiots who let that kid wander around freely after having been warned by MULTIPLE calls to the FBI, and an FBI investigation into the little twerp, for which they did NOTHING. Didn't even Red Flag his ability to purchase firearms...which the FBI can do...which would have notified them when he bought a firearm so that they knew he could then act on the threats he made previously. At which point they would have gotten a warrant, and swooped in and busted him before he could carry out the threat.
     
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    The push for "mental health reform" is scarier than the gun control proposals. This isn't the movie "Minorty Report". There are no "pre-cogs" who can predict crime (and even that movie showed a loophole).

    Where is the scientific iron-clad proof that a certain individual is a danger to society and shouldn't own a firearm? What DNA sequence is that? What exact brain-wave pattern is it? Oh that's right: that info doesn't exist.

    "Mental health reform" is just an excuse to invent a mechanism to control the populace. Advocates ignore the real problem: lackadaisical "security" and unrealistic expectations of their fellow human beings.

    Don't like the fact that a criminal can WALK into a school ARMED without ANY resistance? Perhaps take steps to fix the security procedures and reactionary steps. Then it wouldn't matter if they had a bazooka, or a pipe-bomb.

    Don't like the fact that someone was reported DOZENS of times to law-enforcement, but no one ever pursued it? Well, if an unbiased examination of those cases/reports finds no fault, then oh well, try to build a better mousetrap, and train better. If it finds fault, then oh well, hold folks responsible, and Ding Ding Ding: Train better.

    There are Already WAY too many laws on the books that could've stopped this tragedy. Just because incompetence and fear caused this FAILURE, doesn't mean we need more legislation. Just fix the damn implementation...
     

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    Broward County Sheriff's Department has had problems for a long time. Different sheriff same problems. They need to clean house, and bring in an outside career LEO to run the department.
     

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    Great article, and thanks for posting it. However, reading it just makes me furious all over again. This was not the first school shooting. We have protocols put in place based on what was learned from the earlier school shootings. No protocol was followed until the Coral Springs cops show up and do their job.

    Violent and deranged folks still know that if you want to go and kill a bunch of helpless, trapped, unarmed and basically unprotected folks, then just go to a school campus and do as you please.

    "In the world of the blind the one eyed man will be king." Never is the say more true than in schools. Parents are forced to trust others for the safety and protection of others. All too often these would be protectors fall short. There are some exceptions but too damn few.
     

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    How 'bout this. - - -> What if 3 or 4 kids got together to play Army every afternoon for a couple of months. Playing paintball or air soft,trying out and learning tactics. Doing the drills. Watching the room/house clearing vids that are out there.
    They gear up. Maybe one with a shotgun and two or three with AK's. All with hi-cap pistols. Maybe Glock 17's. With 5 or6 mags each.
    Thry learn the school layout. During a fire drill they learn which door has the concentration of the most kids.
    They know who and wear the cop hangs out. Most likely right next to the free doughnuts. Or in the gym shootin' hoops with the kids that he loves and love him.
    When the day comes,they kill him first. Then they pull the fire alarm. As all the ho-hum,it could never happen here,urchins,calmly file out into the hallway choke points . . . they open up. The kill zone is active. Two or even three kids die with every shot !!
    Those mean old AK's . . . it is obviously their fault. Them and all those hicap mags.
    As in Parkland . . . it is really nobodys fault. We're not to blame. It wasn't MY job. I don't get paid to do that shit. We tried to raise our kids right. I really can't imagine what could have went wrong. Nobody could have seen a thing like this coming. They were good boys. Lets honor their death right along with the REAL victims.
    It is really too hard to blame anyone or fix anything . . . lets just blame the bad ol' guns and mags.
    NEXT SCHOOL . . . . . . . . . . --- SAWMAN
     

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    Broward County Sheriff's Department has had problems for a long time. Different sheriff same problems.

    There's an article out today about the shitty Sheriff.

    Parents of children gunned down in the Parkland school shooting in Florida last year have never understood two actions taken by Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel: his refusal to fire a campus-based deputy who failed to enter the school during the rampage that took 17 lives, and his continued defense of controversial Obama-era school policies that allowed the  accused shooter to avoid arrest and a police record and thereby purchase the murder weapon.

    The Sheriff, the Sheriff's Son, and the 'Coward of Broward'
     
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    How 'bout this. - - -> What if 3 or 4 kids got together to play Army every afternoon for a couple of months. Playing paintball or air soft,trying out and learning tactics. Doing the drills. Watching the room/house clearing vids that are out there.
    They gear up. Maybe one with a shotgun and two or three with AK's. All with hi-cap pistols. Maybe Glock 17's. With 5 or6 mags each.
    Thry learn the school layout. During a fire drill they learn which door has the concentration of the most kids.
    They know who and wear the cop hangs out. Most likely right next to the free doughnuts. Or in the gym shootin' hoops with the kids that he loves and love him.
    When the day comes,they kill him first. Then they pull the fire alarm. As all the ho-hum,it could never happen here,urchins,calmly file out into the hallway choke points . . . they open up. The kill zone is active. Two or even three kids die with every shot !!
    Those mean old AK's . . . it is obviously their fault. Them and all those hicap mags.
    As in Parkland . . . it is really nobodys fault. We're not to blame. It wasn't MY job. I don't get paid to do that shit. We tried to raise our kids right. I really can't imagine what could have went wrong. Nobody could have seen a thing like this coming. They were good boys. Lets honor their death right along with the REAL victims.
    It is really too hard to blame anyone or fix anything . . . lets just blame the bad ol' guns and mags.
    NEXT SCHOOL . . . . . . . . . . --- SAWMAN

    I always wonder why no one has used suppressed, SBR, in this scenario?
     

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    Evil exists. Period.

    Now that we've got that out of the way, define the root problem: an UNprotected precious resource (school children) and the demonstrated inadequacy of the people and equipment assigned to protect them.

    The challenge is to maintain the sanctity of the God-given Rights of the populace, and try your best to find a solution that addresses the inevitable cunning and heartless determination of an EVIL actor.

    Keep that focus, and we're on the right path.
     

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    Really don't know Joel. Possibly too hard to come by.
    One thing I do know . . . as the entrance to the school grounds and buildings gets harder,the BG's will get more sophisticated.
    They will be dressed as HVAC workers,linen/uniform delivery workers (with truck),or grounds keepers. Society has to be prepared to fight fire with fire. If not,the children will be slaughtered.
    We need to take a hard look at how the Israelis do it. Not pretty,not politically correct,expensive,but it effin works. When is the last time that you heard of an incident over there ??
    Nowadays Americans are a sad lot. They would rather,point the finger,blame inanimate objects,and not be proactive at protecting the kids that they say they love. Sometimes I just wonder if parents nowadays are just destined to raise sheep for the slaughter. Screw . . Pop a kid . . Shove 'em out the door to die . . Screw . . Pop another kid . . Shove 'em out the door to die . . etc,etc,etc. --- SAWMAN
     

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    For what it's worth, that scenario from Sawman, or Roaster's ponderings about SBRs and cans... those are the kinds of questions/what-ifs that should drive revamping how our schools are run.

    Threats evolve, and so should tactics.

    If it's safer to avoid a no-kidding fire by funneling the targets to choke points, perhaps there should be an armed security presence at/near those choke points. Maybe the SRO's job should be to hustle to a specified exit to deter such an adversary's tactic. That would be transparent to the kids.

    3 or 4 kids wandering around with duffel bags not in class should be noticed by someone. Either personnel on the ground or someone monitoring the cameras.

    You can run effective security without freaking out the kids and stealing their childhood.

    It's a matter of priorities.

    I'd sure as hell rather have tax dollars pay for effective school security than any number of BS feel-good snowflake social programs.
     
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    If I was making a movie - Pensacola Beach, Blue Angel weekend, suppressed, elevated position, etc. Leave those poor school kids alone.

    Build a wall around schools? That will keep the bad guys out.
     

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    If a wall will keep the BG's out of the schools . . . here's a thought . . . maybe it should be tried at the border.
    SORRY . . . couldn't help myself. --- SAWMAN
     
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