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    [QUOTE=John B.;418418]For $800 it's not doing anything a $100 muzzleloader can't do. Lol. Air guns are novelty... a simply "because I can"... not knocking it, just saying they will never be popular with 99% of hunters/[QUOTE]

    It will shoot a bullet and kill game size animals without the use of gun powder, just saying!

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    I compare it to bow hunting and would be all about it if there was a special season for it like bow/muzzleloader. Who knows, maybe there will be one in the future.

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    Currently what are the rules in FL for hunting with air rifles and specifically are airguns legal for deer and other game animals?

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    Gents,
    I've been hunting with airguns for small game nearly exclusively for the last 10 years. That being said....I do a LOT of small game hunting, mostly squirrels. I've won a 50 yard bench rest match against Anshutz rifles that cost $5000 with my primary hunting rifle. There are a world of what's called Big-Bore air rifles out there..... .30 and up are in this class.
    As far as lethality goes, I've done some pretty significant testing in numerous media from deer to hog's heads and even a 300lb Black Bear skull. I will tell you that out to 50yds, I will comfortably brain shoot anything up to a hog with my .25 cal. I killed 4 deer in Mexico, where there are no restrictions, with both .22 and .25 calibers. I placed an 18-Grain .22 pellet moving at 920fps over the heart of a 6-point and he went 58 yards, lasered and piled up. I double lunged a large doe with the .25 at 32 yards...80 yards....the pellet was laying under the skin on the off side...major lung damage. The other two were both head shots at 24 yard with the .22 and 41 yards with the .25.

    Big bores in both 9mm and .45 are making enough power nowadays for shoot-through's on deer at 100 yds. Most of these big bores actually shoot pistol bullets and not pellets. There are up to 9mm pellets out there, but I've yet to see a .45 pellet. I'm planning to buy my first big bore, a .45 in the near future for testing purposes....but launching a 300Gr bullet at 900fps has enough energy to penetrate any Florida game species and ethically dispatch them.

    v/r

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    Quote Originally Posted by USMCShooter View Post
    Gents,
    I've been hunting with airguns for small game nearly exclusively for the last 10 years. That being said....I do a LOT of small game hunting, mostly squirrels. I've won a 50 yard bench rest match against Anshutz rifles that cost $5000 with my primary hunting rifle. There are a world of what's called Big-Bore air rifles out there..... .30 and up are in this class.
    As far as lethality goes, I've done some pretty significant testing in numerous media from deer to hog's heads and even a 300lb Black Bear skull. I will tell you that out to 50yds, I will comfortably brain shoot anything up to a hog with my .25 cal. I killed 4 deer in Mexico, where there are no restrictions, with both .22 and .25 calibers. I placed an 18-Grain .22 pellet moving at 920fps over the heart of a 6-point and he went 58 yards, lasered and piled up. I double lunged a large doe with the .25 at 32 yards...80 yards....the pellet was laying under the skin on the off side...major lung damage. The other two were both head shots at 24 yard with the .22 and 41 yards with the .25.

    Big bores in both 9mm and .45 are making enough power nowadays for shoot-through's on deer at 100 yds. Most of these big bores actually shoot pistol bullets and not pellets. There are up to 9mm pellets out there, but I've yet to see a .45 pellet. I'm planning to buy my first big bore, a .45 in the near future for testing purposes....but launching a 300Gr bullet at 900fps has enough energy to penetrate any Florida game species and ethically dispatch them.

    v/r

    Jamie
    Hey Jamie...

    Glad to see you got on our forum. You will enjoy it in here. Lots of good people and info.

    See ya when I get back in to town!!!
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    My calculations show a 18gr @ 920fps is producing 34fpe.
    A 22LR puts out 135fpe.
    Sorry sir,you will NEVER convince me that putting 34 foot pounds of energy on a whitetail deer is ethical.
    If I did some calculations on the weight,and velocity,then throw in some of the ballistic coefficients of the pellets at what speed,are used,I would most likely be even more against the use of something to kill something . . . just to show the world you can. ---- SAWMAN
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    Quote Originally Posted by kendive View Post
    Hey Jamie...

    Glad to see you got on our forum. You will enjoy it in here. Lots of good people and info.

    See ya when I get back in to town!!!

    Lookin forward to it Ken! Be safe out there!

    s/f

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAWMAN View Post
    My calculations show a 18gr @ 920fps is producing 34fpe.
    A 22LR puts out 135fpe.
    Sorry sir,you will NEVER convince me that putting 34 foot pounds of energy on a whitetail deer is ethical.
    If I did some calculations on the weight,and velocity,then throw in some of the ballistic coefficients of the pellets at what speed,are used,I would most likely be even more against the use of something to kill something . . . just to show the world you can. ---- SAWMAN
    18gr is pretty much just .22. Don't think we are talking about .22 airguns to hunt with maybe birds and such. But .25 and up can get quite powerful...

    Here's a .25 Cricket Airgun Hunt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llih...has_verified=1

    I sold my Crickets .22 and the .25



    Now I have the .25 Vulcan... Love it. Like I said I don't hunt anymore but have alot of friends that do and with airguns and I find them mostly more successful with the airguns... Air-Gunners are probably more in tune like bow hunters. Shot Placement Is Everything... We all know that

    Airguns have proved themselves over and over.

    The best part is they are not controlled by the govt at least not yet... LOL




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    For the Florida legislators to make laws that pertain to hunting with an air rifle,what info would they need to go by,that would influence their decission ??
    Distance to target animal would not be one of them. There is no way that you could tell a hunter that the deer MUST BE at least ??yds before you could shoot him.
    Proficiency with weapon would not be used. They do not do that with bow and arrow or firearm.
    Maybe caliber and/or weight of projectile. OR . . . perhaps by muzzle energy derived by velocity.
    You cannot shoot a deer with any centerfire including 22mag so would the energy level cutoff be somewhere above that ??
    Could you use a air gun on turkey ??
    Unfortunately,the legislators will not use all info available to them. They most likely will come up with the laws,and vote on those laws,as dictated by public pressure and NOT common sense. --- SAWMAN
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    Unless there was an exclusive airgun season, 99.9% of hunters will not use one, myself included.

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