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    Jeb21

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    Trump said on camera on Friday of last week that Michael Cowen was his personal lawyer. So the answer to that question should be pretty straightforward.
     

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    The F.B.I. agents who raided the office and hotel of President Trump’s lawyer on Monday were seeking all records related to the “Access Hollywood” tape in which Mr. Trump was heard making vulgar comments about women, according to three people who have been briefed on the contents of a federal search warrant.

    The search warrant also sought evidence of whether the lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, tried to suppress damaging information about Mr. Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign.

    It is not clear what role, if any, Mr. Cohen played regarding the tape, which was made public a month before the election. But the fact that the agents were seeking documents related to the tape reveals a new front in the investigation into Mr. Cohen that is being led by the United States attorney’s office in Manhattan.

    The disclosure comes a day after it was revealed that the authorities also sought documents from Mr. Cohen related to payments made to two women who claim they had affairs with Mr. Trump, Karen McDougal and Stephanie Clifford, as well as information on the role of the publisher of The National Enquirer in silencing the women.

    Dude's in a world of hurt.

    He's got a lot of money, and he himself, graduated from one of the worst law school in the country, so you'd think he would be lawyering up by now. Like Paul Manafort, he's potentially looking at spending the rest of his life in prison.
     

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    One of the bigger issues with this (there are others) is that presidents can only pardon federal charges. They cannot pardon state charges. For instance in this case, bank fraud and wire fraud can be also prosecuted under state laws and almost certainly will be, in the event of a federal pardon.

    The second biggest issue with this is that acceptance of a pardon (according to SCOTUS), among other things, constitutes an admission of guilt.
     

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    He does not care with the corrupt soulless dimms attacking beat them anyway you can same as you would treat isis if you have to...got plenty of room at GITMO
     

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    Just remember that the Podesta emails were released an hour after the Access Hollywood tape was.

    If Cohen had the heads up that the tape was coming out, and reached out to Stone, Assange, GRU agents, his brothers recently assassinated father-in-law, etc "to help"......
     

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    Mueller has evidence Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of dossier

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    The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

    Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.

    It would also be one of the most significant developments thus far in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of whether the Trump campaign and the Kremlin worked together to help Trump win the White House. Undercutting Trump’s repeated pronouncements that “there is no evidence of collusion,” it also could ratchet up the stakes if the president tries, as he has intimated he might for months, to order Mueller’s firing.

    Cohen has vehemently denied for months that he ever has been in Prague or colluded with Russia during the campaign.

    Neither he nor his lawyer responded to requests for comment for this story.
     

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    It looks to me like Trump is not even going to be able to pardon him on any of this. Cohen accepting the pardon would be an admission to guilt and the crime-fraud exception would kick in with Cohen's attorney-client privilege, meaning all of his communications with Trump would be fair game for any criminal investigation.
     

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    You are right, they got warrants for all his emails months ago, and have been reading them ever since. There are no emails from Donald Trump though, because the current president of the United States does not use email.
     

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    There area also audio tapes that may be problematic though the attorney client privilege issue does pop up on this one.
     

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    It is called the crime/fraud exception. I think the answer depends upon whether the client was involved in the conspiracy to commit the crime. If the client was unaware that the lawyer was going to commit a crime the privilege is not waived. Of course the privilege only applies to communication between the lawyer and the client or internal communications within the firm (communications to non trial experts may also be protected). Also I don't know how you figure out if the client was involved unless you look at the communications (I guess the attorney rolls over on the client?)
     

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    I suspect that attorney/client privilege will not be an issue in this case:

    Michael Cohen is a fraud of a lawyer who works exclusively for President Trump, federal prosecutors charged Friday. “Cohen has told at least one witness that he has only [one] client — President Trump,” the lawyers wrote in court documents, challenging Cohen’s claims that records seized in raids on his home and office Monday should be protected by attorney-client privilege.

    And he’s barely doing any “legal work” for Trump, either, they claim. “[Reviews of the records] indicate that Cohen is in fact performing little to no legal work, and that zero *e-mails were exchanged with President Trump,” according to the brief, filed in Manhattan federal court. In fact, the criminal investigation into Cohen isn’t about his work as a lawyer, “but rather relate to Cohen’s own business dealings,” the feds argued.

    The claims came after Cohen’s own attorney challenged the seizure of the documents, which include records relating to Cohen’s payments to porn actress Stormy Daniels. But when the judge demanded that Cohen’s lawyers provide some proof that Cohen has any other clients beyond the commander in chief, they twice came back empty-handed.
     

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    At this point, it seems to have become a GIVEN that Cohen has incriminating criminal evidence against the President of the United States of America. How weird is that? Why would everyone involved believe this to be fact?

    Why don't Trump's friends and associates pretend to think everything he did with Michael Cohen was above board?


    Why Do Trump’s Defenders Assume He’s Guilty?


    Dershowitz: Trump has to assume his best friends will flip


    Trump allies worry Cohen will flip


    Trump’s legal team bracing for Cohen to cooperate with federal investigation: report


    Turn on him with what, exactly? As Chait and Barro write, these people are at least aspirationally standing up for Trump, and yet their comments have a clear subtext of guilt. They all start with the premise that Trump has something to hide. You can’t flip on someone unless you’ve got something to offer prosecutors. Usually, the defenders of suspects in prosecutors’ cross-hairs loudly proclaim their innocence, and insist that the investigation will ultimately vindicate them. But Trump’s chorus is singing from a different hymnal.


    It seems to me that everyone is already stipulating that Cohen HAS evidence against Trump, and the only question is IF he will give it up in exchange for leniency in his own prosecution.
     
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