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  • ccather

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    While I may be wasting my time, I did email all my representatives regarding gun control.

    I understand that years ago, a rep would call his office and ask how the phone calls and letters were trending on a topic. Since so few took the time, each letter/call carried much more weight.

    Does anyone know how reps check the pulse of their Districts? Did I waste my time?
     

    Jerry

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    I don't think you wasted your time. Who knows what influences them orther than campaign contributions.
    I think you need to express your views regardless of who your Rep is or what side you talke. Unless youre anti-gun, of course.
     

    Bamajoey

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    I got a letter from Bill Nelson yesterday telling me how critical it is to have a ban on assault weapons and more gun control, so I sent him an emaile back telling him what an idiot he is if he thinks gun control will stop some one that wants to kill people. It will go in the "trash" with the rest of the common sense letters from gun owners.
     

    Ross7

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    I get the NRA-ILA email alerts for issues pertaining to Florida and there's a vote in the Senate tomorrow...

    URGENT NOW! Senate to take Gun Control Bill TOMORROW
    DATE: February 28, 2018
    TO: USF & NRA Member and Friends
    FROM: Marion P. Hammer
    USF Executive Director
    NRA Past President

    Tomorrow, March 1, 2018, the Florida Senate will take up SB-7026, a bill that punishes gun owners.

    Senators are being bullied into voting for gratuitous gun control measures in order to be able to vote on school safety.

    Senate leadership is trying to force Senators to vote for gun control if they want to vote to harden schools, to put armed security in schools and to keep guns out of the hands of dangerously mentally ill people.

    These are the Gun Control measures contained in the Senate bill:

    1. Makes it a felony for any person under 21 to purchase any firearm either privately or from a dealer. Exemption for active duty military & law enforcement only.

    2. Minimum 3-Day Waiting Period on ALL FIREARMS. Exempts CW license holders and persons who have completed the Florida FWC Hunter Safety course.

    3. Every year it confiscates 10% of the license fees paid by CW license holders to pay for the care of victims of mass shootings.

    4. Bans the sale and transfer of Bump Stocks.

    Please EMAIL members of the Florida Senate IMMEDIATELY and tell them to VOTE NO ON GUN CONTROL.

    Urge them to provide armed security in schools and tighten mental health laws to keep guns out of the hands of those who are a danger to themselves or others BUT LEAVE THE RIGHTS OF LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS ALONE.

    IN THE SUBJECT LINE PUT: VOTE NO ON GUN CONTROL– Vote Against SB-7026

    (To send your message to all just Block and Copy All email addresses into the "Send To" box)

    baxley.dennis@flsenate.gov,
    bean.aaron@flsenate.gov,
    benacquisto.lizbeth@flsenate.gov,
    bradley.rob@flsenate.gov,
    brandes.jeff@flsenate.gov,
    broxson.doug@flsenate.gov,
    flores.anitere@flsenate.gov,
    gainer.george@flsenate.gov,
    galvano.bill@flsenate.gov,
    garcia.rene@flsenate.gov,
    grimsley.denise@flsenate.gov,
    hukill.dorothy@flsenate.gov,
    hutson.travis@flsenate.gov,
    lee.tom@flsenate.gov,
    mayfield.debbie@flsenate.gov,
    negron.joe@flsenate.gov,
    passidomo.kathleen@flsenate.gov,
    perry.keith@flsenate.gov,
    simmons.david@flsenate.gov,
    simpson.wilton@flsenate.gov,
    stargel.kelli@flsenate.gov,
    steube.greg@flsenate.gov,
    young.dana@flsenate.gov,
     

    JoeCorrado

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    I did my part and emailed everyone. I hope it did some good but who knows. It sickens me with what's been said in the news as of late from our elected leaders.
     

    War-Buff

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    Last time I emailed this group, I requested read receipts. For as long as months later I was getting notices that added up to almost half of them having been deleted without being read.
     

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    Ditto, sent them out a few days ago. If nothing else, it was calming to pound the keyboard with extreme prejudice.
     

    ccather

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    I also emailed them just now.

    It was fast and easy. No excuses!!
     

    Bamajoey

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    I emailed them yesterday and got a generic response from Tom Lee this am.
    I'm too old to worry about 18 vs 21, don't want or ever have wanted an AR15, don't want a bump stock, I have a carry permit so don't care about a three day wait, but I keep thinking about the old saying of don't let the camel get his nose under the tent. If we give the liberals an inch they will try to take a mile of our rights, so we have to stop it now.
     

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    Please take a few minutes and do these simple actions
    EVERY DAY
    Take Action tools at >>
    www.2Abattle.com.
    CALL the White House at (202) 456-1111 and Congress at (202) 224-3121 -- tell them to OPPOSE all new gun control and SUPPORT pro-gun legislation! SHARE this on social media and ask every gun owner you know to help us fight RIGHT NOW.

    THis is super easy
     

    MAXman

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    Last time I emailed this group, I requested read receipts. For as long as months later I was getting notices that added up to almost half of them having been deleted without being read.

    Probably because you can't email a check
     

    RidgeRunner

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    I emailed them yesterday and got a generic response from Tom Lee this am.
    I'm too old to worry about 18 vs 21, don't want or ever have wanted an AR15, don't want a bump stock, I have a carry permit so don't care about a three day wait, but I keep thinking about the old saying of don't let the camel get his nose under the tent. If we give the liberals an inch they will try to take a mile of our rights, so we have to stop it now.



    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
     

    JWlineman

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    I thought this might be of interest in this thread.
    This is from a Facebook post by Duane Liptak, VP of Magpul Ind.
    And I quote,
    "This is long. Apologies.

    After discussions with the K Street folks and some of the NRA leadership, here's where I believe we are at:

    Yes, Trump was being exceptionally histrionic. His tone in the meeting on Sunday was much different, apparently. My biggest takeaway after watching that meeting 3 or 4 times is that he has absolutely no idea what the hell is going on with some of the prior proposals. The few talking points about things he actually wants done were age and background checks (fix NICS) plus school security, (School security being the major talking point of the NRA meeting, along with resisting any of the other ineffective measures that hurt our rights) but he had no idea what was in the Toomey Manchin bill or that they introduced that bill in defiance of the NRA, he had no idea what Feinstein's bill was at all, he has no idea that he has no power to unilaterally ban bumpfire stocks through regulation without changing the statutory definition of machine gun (Adam Kraut, et. al. are standing ready to challenge and enjoinder anything like that), and he's throwing shit all over the place to shake things up. I believe his position will end up being short of a hardware ban of any kind, except for bumpfire stocks, unless someone can explain to him what they actually do and how dumb it is to bother banning them--and especially the second and third order effects potential on quality triggers, etc. Yes, it's not ideal, no Trump was not my first choice, but we'd probably have been dealing with this a year ago if his opponent won, and we'd be selling out the country for the benefit of the Clinton foundation. Don't blame the NRA for backing him, because that was done when it became obvious that if we didn't back him, we'd have Clinton in the WH and if Trump did squeak by without the NRA endorsement, we wouldn't have a seat at the table. Politics sucks. That's a fact.

    If anything gets signed through EO, the aforementioned legal efforts will likely invalidate it in short order as long as the courts aren't slow.

    Ryan, of all people, still seems solid on absolutely no hardware bans and being resistant to anything else except school security. If he can hold the House together, we will be OK...and the House has the most to lose in R districts going in to 2018 if they pass Gun Control...so I'm still cautiously optimistic that we will end up with school security and no hardware bans at all. I am worried about age and fix NICS. They know that November will be a bloodbath and they will likely lose the House to dem control if they cave--and then Katy bar the door, we're screwed. We just have to make sure that if Fix NICS slips through, it still only includes the mandatory reporting parts which don't essentially change anything--just adds penalties for people that don't do what they were supposed to be doing anyway, and it's at least still at least tied to reciprocity, or doesn't go at all, and we have to fight to keep long gun purchasing age at 18. We could ensure reciprocity remains relevant by tying it to teachers rights to carry, but we need to fight to avoid any changes to NICS that could have any potential for abuse. I hate to see any changes at all, but the buffoonery in the Texas shooter lack of Air Force reporting has this one being a hot issue with bipartisan support, so while I oppose...I'm just saying where I think it stands.

    Senate is less certain, as the R majority is razor thin and Rubio et.al. are already flaking, plus enough others are milquetoast that it's a risk. They also have fewer seats up, and some of those guys are in purple states or have purple bases where they are trying to play the line. I haven't had confirmation on where McConnell's head is at. He was solid after Vegas. Not sure now.

    I didn't speak with Wayne or Chris, but I did speak to Pete and other leadership at the NRA. They oppose the bumpfire stock ban, they oppose the age limit, they VEHEMENTLY oppose the whole skipping due process nonsense, VEHEMENTLY oppose ANY hardware restrictions, and are supporting only school security enhancements, mental health and LE responsibilities that also protect due process, and another point that I thought was a nice touch--which is civil liability for school administrations that neglect basic physical security or have policies to avoid referring dangerous youths to LE or mental health for evaluation and awareness.

    GOA doesn't seem to have a seat at the table from what I've seen, but they need to keep getting the grass roots of their membership active and contacting congress critters, too. They also need to stop trying to demonize the NRA, that's not helping and it's not valid. Some help from them on the legal fight if an EO goes through would be good, and stand by for challenges to anything that violates due process.

    Bigger threats on the state level...FL bill has some REALLY dangerous language about bumpfire stocks and triggers, mental health etc., and is 66 pages of intentionally vague bullshit. If you're in FL...You need to be writing and calling non-stop for school security, culpability for school administrators, etc., and to protect the rights of law abiding citizens. Kill that bill. It's dangerous because the title and supposed topics are portrayed as "common sense controls", but it's nefarious. IL bill is absolutely draconian. Same there. Anyone there needs to be in the 2 minute drill...that bill is bad, bad, bad. I fear that one has steam and includes all the hardware bogeymen. CO has a senate majority that is holding strong, but if the Rs lose the senate this fall and don't take the governor's mansion, expect CA style gun control in the spring. UT...someone from LDS needs to slap your governor. I'm looking at where we can help in those states.--Edited to add MN and MI...but I haven't been fully briefed on those, so I'm looking now. MN looks ugly.

    Of course all of this is a snapshot and may change tomorrow. Biggest thing is that if you haven't written your congress critters and your governors at the state and federal level, do it. If you have, write them again. Call, too. Have your spouse write them. Make sure your extended family is writing them. The minute anything specific hits the floor, write and call again.

    And don't shop at Dick's."



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    ccather

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    I believe the Florida Senate will be considering the "gun control and school safety" bill on Saturday. Please correct if I am wrong.

    I have sent a second round of emails to the list Ross7 provided above.
     

    Snake-Eyes

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    Holy crap. 73-pages of libtard legalese knee-jerk reactionary politics.

    Here's one of the scariest sections, Section 9:

    410 Section 9. Section 790.34, Florida Statutes, is created to
    411 read:
    412 790.34 Prohibited device for firearm.—
    413 (1) DEFINITION.—As used in this section, the term “bump-
    414 fire stock” means a gun conversion kit, a tool, an accessory, or
    415 a device used to alter the rate of fire of a firearm to mimic
    416 automatic weapon fire or which is used to increase the rate of
    417 fire of a semiautomatic firearm to a faster rate than is
    418 possible for a person to fire such semiautomatic firearm
    419 unassisted by a kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device.
    420 (2) SALE OR TRANSFER.—A person may not import into this
    421 state or, within this state, transfer, distribute, transport,
    422 sell, keep for sale, offer or expose for sale, or give a bump-
    423 fire stock to another person. A person who violates this
    424 subsection commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as
    425 provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

    So, unless we can all claim that Jerry Miculek is the "standard", every trigger kit makes you a FELON. Well, maybe no more "import/export/sales/gifting", so what's here is here (?), but that's a quick leap to get it out of the state borders or be considered, you guessed it, a FELON.

    Think they'll cut that one out? Maybe.

    But the next scary one, Section 10, the "Risk Protection Order Act".

    Wow. Just read all about the Restraining Order Gestapo powers.

    That one will end in bloodshed one day, I'm positive. Some well-intentioned idiot will use the letter of the law to attempt to disarm a law-abiding gun owner. (By the way, punishment for using these new statutes as "harassment" is just a misdemeanor, but if you don't cooperate with the "surrender your weapons and ammo" judge's order your penalty is a FELONY). One of those law-abiding gun-owners will make a stand against the government agents literally at his door demanding he surrender all of his firearms and ammunition because they have a restraining order. He can file for a review/contest/"vacate the order", but that will take weeks. And when he does, the Accused has to show "clear and convincing evidence" that they aren't a threat anymore. The OPPOSITE of innocent until proven guilty.

    Synopsis: they can show up to your door and demand you surrender all of your firearms and ammunition. If you don't comply, it's a felony. If you do, you can start preparing for your hearing to prove yourself "not a threat" in about a month. Meanwhile, they've thrown your gear in the back of their trucks, scratched it all to shit, catalogued and REGISTERED every serial number and round of ammo, and hauled it all away.

    .....

    The fact that elected lawyers wrote this drivel and are working on a Saturday to talk about it is sickening.
     
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