If he was military, he would be court martialed.
But since he was a cop? Cushy retirement, apparently, since he was allowed to submit his retirement papers. I know from my brother (Albuquerque PD) that 75% of service pay after 20 years is typical.
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If he was military, he would be court martialed.
But since he was a cop? Cushy retirement, apparently, since he was allowed to submit his retirement papers. I know from my brother (Albuquerque PD) that 75% of service pay after 20 years is typical.
Peterson was named school resource officer of the year in the city of Parkland in 2014, after he had been with the school for five years, records show. According to a booklet announcing the award, Peterson had been "proven to be reliable in handling issues with tact and judgment" and was active in mentoring and counseling students that year.
Peterson was also nominated for Parkland deputy of the year in 2017, an internal memo from the sheriff's office dated March 27, 2017, shows.
Peterson was also nominated for Parkland deputy of the year in 2017, an internal memo from the sheriff's office dated March 27, 2017, shows.
Snake-Eyes
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There IS a system in place. The fact is that there are too many spineless people who FAILED to follow through with any sense of resolute determination. Situation was bad enough to call the cops or report to the cops, but "oh no, we don't want to press charges", "oh no, he's not a threat anymore now that he's calmed down"...
Also, didn't see that anyone tried the Baker Act.
As for the weapons, he had other family that could've stepped in and just taken them away. What's he gonna do? Call the cops? Fly off the handle and attack them?
You still seem to think that we need to "make more rules". NO. Enforce the ones already in-place. ACT on the ones already in-place.
And for everyone jumping on the School Resource Officer's shit as if "well, since an SRO didn't help, then there goes That Idea...", remember: he is just One More MISSED OPPORTUNITY in the loooong error chain that allowed that coward to kill those people. The SRO is not the Root Cause, but he was damn sure a contributing factor...
More fallout from the shooting. I have one of their NRA Visa cards, though I'll be cancelling it now.
First National Bank of Omaha drops NRA credit card
First National Bank of Omaha drops NRA credit card
If a person were looking for proof that the government can't or won't protect you, it would seem that they could find it in the failings of the S.R.O. at the time of need. Shameful by any ones standards to say the least.
wildrider666
Master
Big & strong, small & weak, male or female, full of bravado or quite & humble: Some people will instinctively run toward the battle while others run away. Regardless of what shows on the outside, people are wired differently and that will drive them to act or not in situations when they are not directly in harms way.
Training to "reflexively respond" as a group is normally effective, individually the training is still there but "how your wired" will drive or limit the response effort. The training, mental planning/exercise prep; all condition a person to act and overcome fear. No one really knows for certain how they will respond until they are under pressure of a real life or death situation.
Situations where you ARE in harms way are different because you are engaged in the event, not outside looking in. Fight or flight does not actually cover it because it's not always a choice left up to you. The force brought to bear on a person may not allow one or both options. The last option here is sheeple mode, no explanation needed.
We don't know what the SRO's exact response procedures directed him to do in comparison to his actions.. If he froze, was in shock, scared or just used poor judgement. We do know the Sheriff was upset with the SROs preformance of duty (written or not).
It wasn't long ago the majority of LE tactics for a mass shooting event was secure the parimiter, reinforce, then special teams did there thing. Was this the plan the SRO was following? Was there a more current plan that said First Officer(s) will enter and stop or contain the shooter? There has also been procedures where the First Officer on scene is "encouraged to enter". After every Mass Active Shooter incident, there are recommendations for improving responses and tactics. These get wide dissemination but may or may not be adopted by your responsible Agencies for a multitude of reasons. Agencies responding to the Pulse event got a lot of heat over the duration of the incident and its impact on additional victims and those deceased due to hours delay in medical attention. First Officer entry by a off duty Officer was repelled by heavy fire, two other limited entries did not end the event.
With a First Officer on scene entry there is a 75% chance the shooter will be stopped. There is also a 30% chance that Officer will be shot.
Training to "reflexively respond" as a group is normally effective, individually the training is still there but "how your wired" will drive or limit the response effort. The training, mental planning/exercise prep; all condition a person to act and overcome fear. No one really knows for certain how they will respond until they are under pressure of a real life or death situation.
Situations where you ARE in harms way are different because you are engaged in the event, not outside looking in. Fight or flight does not actually cover it because it's not always a choice left up to you. The force brought to bear on a person may not allow one or both options. The last option here is sheeple mode, no explanation needed.
We don't know what the SRO's exact response procedures directed him to do in comparison to his actions.. If he froze, was in shock, scared or just used poor judgement. We do know the Sheriff was upset with the SROs preformance of duty (written or not).
It wasn't long ago the majority of LE tactics for a mass shooting event was secure the parimiter, reinforce, then special teams did there thing. Was this the plan the SRO was following? Was there a more current plan that said First Officer(s) will enter and stop or contain the shooter? There has also been procedures where the First Officer on scene is "encouraged to enter". After every Mass Active Shooter incident, there are recommendations for improving responses and tactics. These get wide dissemination but may or may not be adopted by your responsible Agencies for a multitude of reasons. Agencies responding to the Pulse event got a lot of heat over the duration of the incident and its impact on additional victims and those deceased due to hours delay in medical attention. First Officer entry by a off duty Officer was repelled by heavy fire, two other limited entries did not end the event.
With a First Officer on scene entry there is a 75% chance the shooter will be stopped. There is also a 30% chance that Officer will be shot.
wildrider666
Master
SRO. My Sons PD, Nampa Id, has SROs under Speciality Units like TRT, Dive Team, Bomb Squad and Special Investigations Its an assigned primary duty for 11 Full Duty Officers serving all Public schools K-12. They teach (I didn't ask what), handle crime involving students and on campus Law Enforcement. During summer break they work Bicycle Patrol.
The absolute kick in the nuts about all of this is that now he has six cops guarding his house. Why should this man get better protection then the schoolchildren ever got?
Police officers guard home of deputy assigned to Florida HS who ‘never went in’ during shooting: report"
Police officers guard home of deputy assigned to Florida HS who ‘never went in’ during shooting: report"
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SAWMAN
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History making moment. ^^^^^^ AGREED !!
The POS most likely slipped out on retirement also. He will most likely carry a retired badge,have a blue stripe on his rear window,and draw FULL retirement.
Other LEO's need to openly call him the PO(LEO)S that he earned. They need to call in sick when they are scheduled to "guard" his house. Or in the least,be eating doughnuts down the street when the cameras arrive.
Columbine - - - -> What was the response time to the school by regular LEO's ?? What was the response time by the SWAT guys ?? How much time elapsed between when the SWAT team arrived to the time they went into the school ?? Enough time to let a teacher bleed to death !!
Wake the eff up America ?? ---- SAWMAN
The POS most likely slipped out on retirement also. He will most likely carry a retired badge,have a blue stripe on his rear window,and draw FULL retirement.
Other LEO's need to openly call him the PO(LEO)S that he earned. They need to call in sick when they are scheduled to "guard" his house. Or in the least,be eating doughnuts down the street when the cameras arrive.
Columbine - - - -> What was the response time to the school by regular LEO's ?? What was the response time by the SWAT guys ?? How much time elapsed between when the SWAT team arrived to the time they went into the school ?? Enough time to let a teacher bleed to death !!
Wake the eff up America ?? ---- SAWMAN
Viking1204
Master
He wasn't the first man on the scene, he was the resource officer assigned to the school to PROTECT the children and failed, don't give him a way out with some procedure bullshit. Children were being shot and killed and for 4 minutes he hid behind a cement stair case outside, he's a coward that probably should have never been a cop.
SAWMAN
Master
No,no,no,don't blame the FBI,or any of the local or semi local law enforcement agancies that was derelict in their duties. Oh . . . and don' you dare blame the parents that are raising these killer kids. Don't you dare accuse them of dereliction of THEIR duties to raise a good kid. I say . . . the #1 cause of these school shootings . . EXTREMELY BAD PARENTING !!
But hey,it's much easier to just blame the guns,NRA,existing gun laws,etc. ---- SAWMAN
But hey,it's much easier to just blame the guns,NRA,existing gun laws,etc. ---- SAWMAN
Sheriff Israel, like the majority of the Sheriffs in the FL Sheriff's Association, is anti-gun for civilians;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qogTYo4mPuo
http://sunshinestatenews.com/story/...tion-blasted-secret-ballot-against-open-carry
No LE in the U.S. has a duty to protect citizens without a property interest;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/p...ot-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
http://tribunist.com/news/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/
I personally believe Sheriff Israel broke the law (FL Statute 110.233(4)(b)) when he stood up in uniform on national TV and threatened pro-gun politicians in the state of FL;
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...233&URL=0100-0199/0110/Sections/0110.233.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qogTYo4mPuo
http://sunshinestatenews.com/story/...tion-blasted-secret-ballot-against-open-carry
No LE in the U.S. has a duty to protect citizens without a property interest;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/p...ot-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
http://tribunist.com/news/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/
I personally believe Sheriff Israel broke the law (FL Statute 110.233(4)(b)) when he stood up in uniform on national TV and threatened pro-gun politicians in the state of FL;
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...233&URL=0100-0199/0110/Sections/0110.233.html
kadabujack
Shooter
Governor Scott announces school safety plan - https://www.flgov.com/2018/02/23/go...ents-safe-following-tragic-parkland-shooting/
